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What's up you guys, it's graham here, so here's the deal despite me, saving the vast majority of my income reading all things, personal finance and trying to be the best example to everyone who watches my channel, i'm four million dollars in debt. Initially, this is a number. I never thought that i would find myself with, but over time i began refinancing my properties. I began to take out as much money as they would give me.

I began to take out car loans because it was more affordable and before you knew it i'm here everything is fine all right in all seriousness. I know i get some criticisms for these choices and, frankly, i think some of it could be justified. After all, growing up, i was taught that debt is irresponsible. Credit cards are bad with household debt recently approaching an all-time high.

It's a real problem for a lot of people. So let me set the record straight to explain why i'm not paying off any of these loans early and then how you could use a similar strategy to make money, although before we start, i do have a confession to make. I am in debt to the like button and the only way to pay it back is by giving it a gentle tap for the youtube. Algorithm.

Okay, but really hitting the like button or subscribing, does help out the channel tremendously and with the new update the like button now has confetti every time you hit it. So thank you guys so much for doing that, and also big. Thank you to true bill for sponsoring this video, but more on that later. Alright.

Now, even though some of you might understand the nuances of what i'm talking about and grasp the bigger picture, unfortunately, most people do not, and instead just focus on one single word, and that would be debt. Our culture has made it so easy to purchase just about anything. You would ever want with one click of a button, even if you can't afford it. It's this instant gratification of being able to buy a brand new car, but not because it's 71 000, but because it's zero dollars down at 999 dollars a month or taking vacations and seeing all the places you've wanted to visit because hey it's only 120 a month.

For the next five years on a credit card after a while, it's easy to become desensitized to the price tag of an item, because as long as you can afford the monthly payment, what difference does the upfront cost make? In fact, this new business model's become so popular that buy now pay later. Companies like a firm have partnered with amazon, with 74 percent of participants now having used it with 82 between the ages of 25 and 34.. Even though a third of users have difficulty keeping up with their monthly payments, it's still more popular than ever, and the mindset seems to be it's not a big deal as long as they don't fall behind right. Well, there are some consequences to that.

As credit card debt hits an all-time high, new car payments increased by 12 percent, the average student loan debt ballooned to 39 000, and, to top it all off, it's now about to get a lot more expensive with interest rates increasing. So how do you fix something? Like this, especially when the average credit card interest rate is already over 18 well for most people, their solution is simply the belief that all debt is bad. You should avoid it at all costs, no matter what, but for my own debt, i take a completely different approach and i can't help but feel that there has to be a better strategy out there when it comes to personal finance, building wealth and making money. I generally see two categories that people tend to fall into.
The first believes that all debt is bad they'll, avoid it at all costs, they'll pay down their loans as fast as possible, and they want to preserve what they have now. Even though it's a very safe strategy, they don't optimize all of their available options and sometimes they'll wind up with less now. The second type of person embraces debt. They don't bother themselves with paying it off early and they just want to squeeze out as much value as possible, even if that means taking on a higher risk for a slightly higher reward.

However, as anyone will tell you, it's usually not a good idea to go too close to either extreme, so to me, here's my philosophy behind it. If holding on to debt does not make you money, then always avoid it or if buying something is not going to make you anything, then always buy it if you could afford to pay for it outright, but on the other hand, if having debt is going to Make you more money, then sometimes do it and if buying something can make you more money, then it's okay to finance it, but only every now and then i know it sounds kind of confusing. But here's what i mean by that just like we accept electricity in our day-to-day lives. We still avoid sticking our fingers in the electrical socket or just like.

Most of us drive a car to and from work. We avoid launching it off a hill for youtube views. Wait never mind anyway, as you can see, there are some fundamental differences between the right and the wrong way to use debt with very little in between. So when it comes to myself, here's the strategy that i most closely follow and why i owe 4 million, although before we go into that as a self-diagnosed personal finance nerd, i need to address a recurring question.

What software do i personally use to budget my money? Keep track of expenses and make sure that i don't get too carried away with all you can eat sushi, and the answer just so happens to be the sponsor of today's video, and that would be true bill. They're, an all-in-one finance app. That gives you a complete snapshot of your entire financial history from bank accounts, credit cards subscriptions and anything else related to your money. No joke i've been using them on a daily basis with email reminders, and they show me all of the information that i otherwise would have missed.
One of my favorite features is that they allow you to identify recurring charges and then, once you see everything that you're subscribed to you can cancel anything. You don't need within the app with just a quick tap they'll, even help you lower your bills. All you got to do is upload a photo and then from there they'll negotiate on your behalf to bring it down and save you money. On top of that, true bill is loaded with even more features to keep track of your monthly expenses.

Get notifications. When you spend too much money, monitor your credit score and get insights on ways to improve it and set up an automatic savings fund that you can withdraw at any time. So if you're interested in learning, more checking them out or most importantly, saving more money feel free to use the link down below in the description or visit truebill.comgram, and now with that said, let's get back to the video all right. So when it comes to myself and my overall debt, even though i do use credit cards for every single thing that i buy, i always pay them off in full by the time they're due.

So that way, i don't owe a single penny in interest, even though i bought a tesla and financed it 100. It made sense because i could borrow money at a cheaper interest rate than i could make investing it, even though i borrowed 4 million in mortgages. I know that's worth more, not being paid off than it is to pay it off, even though i have the capability of doing so. The strategy behind this, and why focus so much on accumulating debt is very simple leverage.

It's the act of borrowing money at a cheap interest rate to invest it at a higher interest rate, and then you profit the difference for some people. It's hard to understand because yeah, it's not my money. I owe it back and of course i have to pay it back with interest, even on my four million dollars of debt at a three percent interest rate, i have to pay back six million dollars over 30 years, essentially costing me an extra 2 million dollars. So it's easy to see why so many people are against it, but the way i see it is that i would much rather pay back 6 million dollars 30 years from now than 4 million today and to break it down a little bit.

More simply think of it like this. If i offered you a hundred thousand dollars today and i wouldn't charge you any interest, would you take it? I would venture to say that everyone would say yes, because even if you put it in a savings account, you could earn a risk-free half a percent with basically no work. But what if i said i'll, give you a hundred thousand dollars but charge you a one percent interest rate? Would you take it again? I believe that almost everyone would say yes, because if you were able to average four percent in the stock market, you have to pay back one percent and you still make another three percent profit: okay. But what about? A hundred thousand dollar loan at a four percent interest rate.
Well, this is where strategy comes in, because if you invest it four percent in the stock market and you break even it's not worth it and you expose yourself to unnecessary risk. However, if you were to put that hundred thousand dollars in a rental property earning seven percent, then it is worth it and you get to make a three percent profit, but now what about a hundred thousand dollar loan at a ten percent interest rate? Would you take it to me? This is the point where it pays off not to take it, because when you compare that to a safe return that you could make anywhere else, you begin to see that you're getting pretty darn close to putting your finger in that electrical socket. This is where you need the knowledge and the self-awareness to ask yourself at what point: does borrowing money simply become too expensive and not worth the time and the risk? For me, my debt consists of a thirty thousand dollar loan on my tesla model, three four mortgages across four rental properties, averaging a three percent interest rate and one mortgage on a house i live in now, which is at a fixed interest rate of 2.875 for 30 Years now, excluding the home i'm living in now, since mortgage interest is a write-off against my rental income in my tax bracket of 37 percent plus 10 to the state of california, where the property is located after tax. That brings down my effective interest rate to 1.6 out of pocket and since that loan is fixed for the next 30 years, you also have to take another talking point into consideration.

That's been a very hot topic for this year and that would be inflation now before covid. Inflation has usually been about two percent a year, but today, after supply chain shortages, stimulus and money, printing, the inflation rate has skyrocketed to a staggering seven and a half percent, which means that every one million dollars worth of debt is reduced by 75 000 a year Effectively, making it cheaper to pay off the longer you don't pay it off in a weird way. Inflation is really really good for loans, because if i'm paying a 1.6 interest rate after tax out of pocket and inflation is seven and a half percent, i'm making an extra 5.9 profit just for taking out a loan yeah seriously at 4 million dollars. It was like i was paid 236 000, because inflation makes it that much cheaper to pay off.

The same also applies to any time that i would do a cash out or finance, even though i now owe more money, i also get more money to invest for a higher return, essentially wiping out the interest i pay and leaving me with more profit. Not only that, but since i could borrow against those assets, the money i receive isn't taxable because technically it's a loan that i have to pay back. This is pretty much real estate, investing in a nutshell and it's how some people are able to build great wealth as long as they play it. Smart, don't borrow too much and make relatively safe investments like getting a free stock down below.
In the description when you sign up for public using the code gram, because that could be worth all the way up to a thousand dollars, that's why i have three main criteria when it comes to debt and if my investments don't fall within these categories, i'm out One i only take debt if it's attached to a safe, predictable, generating asset like real estate. That way, i'm not borrowing money just for the sake of borrowing money, but instead i could profit the difference between what i pay and what that investment makes. Two. It only makes sense to borrow money if the interest rate i pay is lower than what i could make investing it somewhere else.

In my tesla's case, for example, it was a better idea not to pay off the car, get a 3.75 interest rate and invest that difference back into buying tesla stock, which i guess grew to an amount. That's worth several teslas outright in cash. Three inflation makes the loan easier to pay off over time and that's why it's a lot easier to pay off a ten thousand dollar loan today than it would be to pay off a ten thousand dollar loan back in 1922. in this environment, i think having a Loan could be a safe hedge against a well-balanced portfolio as long as you get a fixed interest rate and don't take on a loan that you know you cannot afford.

For me, this 4 million loan is kind of like my safety net, because even though inflation causes commodity prices to go up at the same time, it also makes my loan easier to pay down, so hopefully they balance each other out now, of course, i will also Acknowledge that over time, i've begun to see the psychological aspect to paying down a mortgage owing something outright and knowing that no matter what happens you own it it's yours. But logically, when you look at the numbers, unless you're a few years away from retiring, it doesn't make a lot of sense, and my rational brain keeps telling me to take the loan. Don't pay it off early and just don't be stupid. The point i want to make is that debt isn't always bad.

If you have the awareness, the self-control and the persistence to make smart calculated investments, then using debt could be a strategic way to grow your wealth. But if you abuse it, you waste it and you get caught up in the cycle of consumer debt. You will absolutely get burned, play it safe, take it slow and pretty soon you'll be on your way to making a lot of money and subscribing and smashing the like button. If you haven't done that already so with that city guys.

Thank you so much for watching. Also make sure to add me on instagram or in my second channel the gram stefan show i post there every single day - i'm not posting here. So if you want to see a brand new video from me every single day, make sure to add yourself to that and, lastly, don't forget to sign up for ftx cryptocurrency down below in the description where every trade you make over ten dollars gets a free crypto Enjoy, let me know what you think, and until next time.

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30 thoughts on “Why i’m $4 million in debt”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars tragicmat1 says:

    Something this video is missing, is the calculation of risk. I don't think there's a need to go full Dave Ramsey just because risk exist, but it needs to be mentioned. E.g., a 3.75% interest rate loan might as well be the equivalent to a high yield saving account that gives you 3.75% return, because you are stuck with the loan no matter what happens until you pay it off (unless you file for bankruptcy). And if a 3.75% high yield savings account existed, I'm certain people would flock a significantly greater portion of their portfolio into it (depending on risk tolerance). So for most people, once risk is factored in, being accountable for a loan at 3.75% to invest that into something that generates 7-8% is not desirable. Even real estate could become risky assets, as seen in 2008.

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Aaa Sss says:

    great video! really smart explanation of what you have been doing for a long time!

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Andrew Edwards says:

    Saw the title.
    Me: Graham wanna get on Ramsey reactions again 😂

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Kory says:

    Bethebank program allows you to use life insurance to pay off debt quicker, my manager mentions it on occassion, you should look into it Graham.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars KCBunne says:

    Wow, you are a comment machine when a vid first drops. Pretty impressive tbh

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Matthew Holliman says:

    Graham, how much more cash flow would you have if had all that real estate paid off?

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Caiden says:

    If I'm not mistaken, some corporations manage debt a particular way too rather than paying it all down at once, though that might be more of a business than personal finance thing.🙂

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Kirsten Lim says:

    Hey graham! My student loan is about 4.5%. In this case, would it be better to pay it off as much as possible? Or do I also use this money to invest?

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Will Budic says:

    You bought your millionaire status with debt.
    Me scratches head, don't you know, that doesn't make you an millionaire.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Live Physiology says:

    Graham's rules in this video seem to show the contrast between good debt and bad debt explained in an alternative way.

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michelle Marki - Warren Buffett Style Investor says:

    If inflation stays high, you are actually making money on all your mortgages and loans so good job Graham!

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Vinnie The Car Guru says:

    Awesome Graham thanks for all the good information 👍🏻👍🏻

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Soul Foam says:

    Graham your hand slapping in this video is very audible…

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars NGC 7635 says:

    mAyBe yOu wOuLdN'T Be iN DeBt iF YoU HaD UsEd a gOlDfIsH TrAdInG AlGoRiThM

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Marc Spunt says:

    I have the same thing Graham has!!! The same mortgage interest rate!! LOL…. Thanks for the vid!

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michelle Marki - Warren Buffett Style Investor says:

    You have to know what type of person you are, can you handle debt or do you know how to use leverage to your advantage?

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Austin Feinberg says:

    Can't wait for Dave Ramsey to provide some "perspective" on this lol

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars zip says:

    As a college student, i try not to take loans. At first look, its a small number, but when u see the following pages on the qoutes, it says if u pay the monthly payment which is reallysmall to bait you. It also says yyou willhave payed more than double sometimes triple once its done(10/15 year plan)… if you didnt miss a payment.

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars RichardoBrit says:

    Smart summary of how using debt can grow wealth when used in the right way

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Zachary Buhler says:

    I’m sorry to say it, but I’m definitely the type that hates debt and I will do everything possible to pay off debt as soon as possible. 🤷‍♂️

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars wd40eeznuts says:

    Without even starting the video yet, it’s real estate related 👀

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars lance bramblett says:

    I would buy gold with 1%-5% interest rates pretty sure that will do well considering all the inflation and out of control government spending.

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michelle Marki - Warren Buffett Style Investor says:

    I think you're taking advantage of cheap debt, and I'm sure you have plenty of cash flow that you could easily pay off the $4 million if you wanted to

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Gabriel Clemons says:

    Great Video Graham! Many people think that debt should always be avoided at all costs but just like what you said it can actually be a good thing. Especially when the current inflation rate is higher than the interest rate it makes more sense to get loans and pay them off in the future. Hopefully I can make my own video on this topic soon. Keep up all the hard work!

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mongoose says:

    I saw the title and instantly thought who cares. You have like 10m in assets lol

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Colipy Kittens says:

    This is why I’m always confused. I have always wondered why banks issuing loans at a lower interest rate then the average capital gain of the stock market.

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Shai Mont says:

    It’s so confusing it’s like your damned if you do and damned if you don’t. I love all of the information you deliver to everyone

  28. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Eleazar Ahmath says:

    Hey Gram!! , you should read the millionaire mind, you would love it so much!!!

  29. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Abe says:

    Do wish you would have bought more levereged real estate over the years? With your income you could easily have over 200 units by now

  30. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ThirtyVirus says:

    before watching the video, if I know Graham:
    "I took out a bunch of loans because rates are so good and am making a bunch of money long term because of it"

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