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-A $74,000 income is reduced to $4300 per month after taxes, 401k contributions, and health insurance.
-$500 Per Month is going towards student loans.
- $1400 to SPLIT a 2-bedroom apartment in a medium-sized city like Orlando, Florida - with utilities.
- $600 per month on food and groceries.
-$400 for a car payment
-$200 for insurance
-$150 for gas
-$100 for a cell phone
-$300 for fun expenses
That leaves you with just $650 left over. Is this middle class?
My Thoughts:
First: Very few people can qualify to buy a home, at 25 years old, with a $74,000 salary. Even if you’re disciplined and live frugally, it’s going to take you 3-10 years to pay off debts and / or save up an amount that would even be considered as a down payment, depending on your area.
Second: This doesn’t take into account the combined incomes of couples.
Just consider that 2021 Census data showed that “46% of people buying a home were married couples, compared to just 22 percent of single men and 30 percent of single women. That’s because lenders COMBINE the income of both people to determine how much money they’ll lend.
Third: It also REALLY depends on where you live.
For example, the median income in Newton Massachusetts is $122,000…while the median income in Flint, Michigan, is $24,900. This means that there will be a LOT of variance in terms of average income and values, and what “middle class” means for your location.
Fourth: Even a savings rate of $500 per month could lead to a SUBSTANTIAL amount of money later in life - especially if you start by age 25.
The way I see it - housing is INSANELY EXPENSIVE. To make matters worse, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, “you’d have to earn about $129,000 today to have the same purchasing power that a salary of $100,000 had just a decade ago.”
However, I tend to believe that the person earning $74,000 per year at 25 years old is going to have the upward mobility to eventually make $110,000 per year by the age of 33 - at which point, qualifying for the median house is going to be much more achievable - ESPECIALLY if they keep their expenses the exact same, during a time where their income is increasing.
No, it’s not going to happen as as soon as you land a job - and, life IS expensive - especially when you’re just starting out - but, I DO believe it’s entirely possible, and you will be able to buy a home after getting established in your career - if you budget for it .
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23 thoughts on “Gen-z says $74,000 per year is no longer middle class”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @Agueart says:

    Weird… I make 75k a year and live in one of the biggest cities in Illinois and am definitely middle class. Would I like to make more? Yes. But my house is paid off, I own a modest new car and have started planning my retirement and I’m in my 30s.

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @jl3303 says:

    Yeah $600 a month for food is obnoxious. One person needs no more than $400 if you’re in a budget.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @mariaj6551 says:

    For my situation personally, $74k would be a great salary for me. My husband and I live below our means. I'm making $15-20k under what my salary is to be in my field, but am working on changing that.

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @jinkun02 says:

    I'd be living like a king at 74K a year. If 74K a year isn't middle class anymore, the problem isn't the money, the problem is YOU NEED TO MOVE THE F OUT OF THE CITY, BOY. People think they have to stay in downtown LA or NYC their entire lives. Leave! You'll find your money gets you more, and gets you much further when you aren't paying arbitrary taxes and upcharges on everyday stuff. And if you're not spending $45 a day eating out!

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @RoccoCarasonne says:

    This all depends on where you live. 74k stretches a lot further in Indiana than it does in DC.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @RoccoCarasonne says:

    That dude numbers are all bullshit.

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @palecelery says:

    Before watching the video I am going to go out on a limb and say this is a delusional and out of touch take from Graham. Lets see if I'm right.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @canny8228 says:

    I see a lot of comments saying things like "if I have to budget every dollar then that's not middle class…"
    As someone who has been middle class since the 1970's I would say that you don't seem to understand middle class. I've budgeted my whole life.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @viletheterrible5168 says:

    I did just fine by myself making $52,000 living in Indiana. I was able to own my reasonable and reliable car, purchase a reasonable and functional house for a single guy, afford to pay all my bills and keep a little extra money back for fun. However, I did not have enough money to save for retirement or have a reasonable emergency fund. Had I gotten an apartment with roommates, that would've freed up some cash to do so. It is not impossible to live well off of a lower income. It's really about making good decisions, doing everything within your power to work hard, and stay healthy.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @Argentfan says:

    Your $150 401K contribution is a point against your position. $500k will not be enough to retire on when Gen Z is 65. Unless you don't plan to live more than a few years.

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @himmie1 says:

    IF YOU HAVE TO BUY A USED CAR UNDER 12K WITH OVER 80K MILES THEN YOUR NOT MIDDLE CLASS.

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @maggiealfonso9887 says:

    Graham is the Min-Max Master

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @iokwong1871 says:

    With all respect buddy, you can always twist your definition of what a "Middle Class" should be like. Bearly making a living with everything count to the pennies? sure….. we used to call this poor. But "Middle Class" can be poor right? It is all depended on how you want to define it.

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @psychrudy says:

    🤢

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @Jeguia85 says:

    Depends where you live…

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @jacobhabtemariam5279 says:

    Gen Z'er here, his estimates are pretty accurate as far as how much is spent on average and how much is left over.. in fact, its even less for me and I'm sure for the average Gen Z'er making that much as well. Certainly does not feel like the middle class…

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @daltonevans8442 says:

    Hi Graham, love your content! What’s the app you used to promote that you could customize what news articles you’d receive?

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @kingrut69 says:

    Bro, I'd like to point out, that the majority of the time the people in smaller areas like my own make barely 25k a year for the majority of their lives. Right now I make roughly 1800 to 2000 dollars a month. That's roughly about it.

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @user-hd8ej8yx9p says:

    The new generation is conflating middle class with upper class. Going to university for hundreds of thousands of dollars is a rich person thing. Owning a big house is a rich person thing. Having more than one car is a rich person thing…. STOP THE CONFLATION

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @darkwubshd4961 says:

    I make 30k….

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @eROCKaustin says:

    they must be new poors. us old poors do just fine with 74k lol

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @kevinrichardson6136 says:

    Not Graham using WhistinDiesel's Ferrari video as a reference for responsible driving lol

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @johncarnettie6804 says:

    Vote for more taxes

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