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Socks are down for three weeks in a row and in this video we're going to talk about where is the Federal Reserve's potential U-turn going to first happen. We'll talk about that in this video and I'll explain my reasons why. Keep that in mind though, this is different. U-turn is different from a pivot where they sort of reduce the level of rate increases that they're handling.

a U-turn is where is that potential? Full fed or good? That's what we want to try to understand a little bit more of in this video. I Do want to mention though, while stocks are down three weeks in a row and it seems like every single day, the only Movement we see in the stock market is down down and just gets worse and worse and worse as we go through. December and the tax loss harvesting season here. What does that actually remind us of? Well, I don't know what it reminds you of, but it reminds me of sitting right here in the same spot last year in November of 2021 during the crazy euphoric bull market.

and I'm looking up at Sarah Eisen And you know what she said day after day after day. New record highs on the S P 500. That does it for me on the closing bell. Over and over and over.

Well, that's one week in a row of record highs. That's two weeks in a row. Recognized, that's three weeks in a row of record highs. Now we're at three weeks in a row of down, Down, Down Down.

And hopefully now. Hope Remember is not an investing strategy, but hopefully that means it's time to break the trend here soon when we start seeing some green when we get into January. But and we are not at record lows on the S P 500 or the NASDAQ. So keep in mind that is a little bit different, but that three week in a row thing something I'm paying attention to.

So what's the first thing that we have to know about the Federal Reserve to understand what turned them dirty? After all, we got two CPI reports in a row that were bullish. They came in below expectations. Inflation's rotating down. This is great.

So what the hell fed? Why'd you have to be so mean? What'd they do? Well, What they did was they gave us a summary of economic projections that were a lot more hawkish than we were hoping they would be. Specifically, they indicated the economy would be closer to recession with GDP close to zero, and they indicated a substantially higher fed funds rate than we were expecting. I Was personally thinking they'd go to like a 4.9 here and ended up going with a 5.1 So pretty aggressive. and some are now thinking that the FED has gone so far that the next summary of economic projections could be the start of signaling the U-turn So when does that happen? Well, it doesn't happen on December 27th.

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So what do we have over here? Well, this is a kind of chart that I threw together right now. We're sitting over here: December 22nd, December 23rd. right? we're We're in a pretty, uh, bearish environment right here. I Think we could almost go ahead and just color this in and say, you know what? December We probably just have to write off as painful, but I made this a black mark right here for January 1st to indicate that I Believe on January 1st.

we're going to get something known as a defeatism check and this is where the era of tax loss harvesting ends right here. and we should hopefully see the people who tax loss harvested start buying back in in January that is for those who tax laws harvested in December Some people tax laws harvested in November though and they haven't come back yet. At least it doesn't feel that way, right? So I believe January 1 and really January through about Feb one is going to Mark a defeatism check. Of course these will be sort of touched on or or uh, you know these might move based on the January 6 jobs data and January 12th CPI report.

but I think January is going to be a big tell. Usually most retail sells in December, most retail Buys in January And remember, most of the stock market gains for a year actually happen between November and May of the Year. This is why the saying sell in May and go away came up. So this is going to be a critical critical period here this chart that I've drawn, but there are some reasons in my opinion to believe that the color of the pain changes.

Well I Have hope for January I Have the most hope that as long as we get a long expectations jobs and CPI reports in Feb 1, we might start getting some hints that if Jerome Powell were to remake his summary of economic projections, he might potentially actually reduce them instead of increase his projections. That would be a critical point for the market to say oh wow, this could be the beginning of a Fed U-turn Just like when we actually get the next summary of economic projections which occurs on March 22nd. Mark your calendar for March 22nd. the Stars here representing the FED meeting March 22nd is going to be very interesting because we have gotten summary of economic projection time after time over the last year that has done nothing but this.

It's gotten worse. It's gotten uh, and we get like worse. There we go worse, worse worse, it's always gotten worse. and March 22nd because they've gone so high on this last SCP report that set off this three-week bear.

Market Here in December, they've gotten so high that it's possible March 22nd We could finally see that the inflection point. Now that's too soon to say that's the FED U-turn right. The FED U-turn is usually when the FED starts cutting, but markets could try to start pricing in the actual fed. U-turn If The Fed says hey, Actually, you know what we're starting to talk about Cuts in 2023.
hey, actually, you know what inflation is behaving better than expected wage inflation is turning over, right? This is the the hopium potential here and we want to be careful that it might not happen if inflation comes in bad. We could just continue to get more aggressive SCP More aggressive SCP But I Don't think so because now leading data suggesting Commodities next year could be down as much as 20 percent. We've got a little bit of an oil rally here happening today. It oils up about three percent, which is not great.

We'd like to see energy come down that permeates through the entire economy, but we're better than where we were last month. We'll see if that can continue to Trend down. Uh, and we've We've gotten suggestions that that rental inflation is really going to give us downward pressure in Q2 and Q3 In fact, Goldman and most forecasters are suggesting in Q2 and that's April May June That's what we're really going to see those moves down in rental inflation JPMorgan suggesting the biggest gap down could actually end up coming uh, in Q3 and graphically from City that's kind of what this looks like. over here, you've got owner's equivalent rent going to the Moon here, but median, uh, sales prices of existing homes and sort of rental inflation is uh, projected to rotate down here within an 18-month a lag or I Should say the owner's equivalent rents are expected to follow either leading rental data or existing home sales down by about 18 months.

And so we would hope that by Q2 we get a nice Drop Like This Q3 we get our next drop down and that could be a big anchor down for inflation, especially since shelter is about a 30 percent weight, about a 32 percent weight for CPI, about a 25 weight for Pce. We just had Pce numbers today that were, you know, kind of at expectations and in some areas actually slightly a little bit hotter. But we still haven't actually seen that rental disinflation yet. And so that's going to be a big factor here.

So if we can get this Sep inflection point I Believe the market might try to start pricing in a U-turn and that's where I think we can get to a little bit of a better Market Starting really in Q2 Now can we get? can we pass this defeatism check over in? January In my opinion, that's going to be critical. Will we pass that defeatism check? Because if people don't come back to the market, then there is this risk that people just resign and Retail ends up selling and capitulating. That ends up marking the bottom and they don't come back. They do what my dad did in 2008, right? It's like November of 2008.
That's it. Can't take it anymore. Sells out is 401K at the bottom and never stays part of the recovery. Look, socks are painful in the short term, right? They go.

They go up like crazy, then they go down and you see your net worth. Go whoa whoa Like crazy. It's insane. But in long term everything ends up working out.

You know, as long as the companies you're investing in don't end up going bankrupt, it generally just ends up working out. So I Like paying attention to this. we can Mark some of these dates here. but what else do we have? We have something that's actually playing into the Fed's hand right now.

10-year treasury yields are rising again. See this right here. As of the Fed's meeting, we've started seeing an increase in the 10-year treasury. I Actually have a belief that it's quite likely 10-year treasury yields are going to stay around three and a half percent for quite a while.

That would actually be more like right there. They'll stay around that level or above there for quite a while. And this is why I've started closing some of my dollar short positions because the dollar short works really well when treasury yields plummet. I Don't know if we're going to see those low treasury yields anytime soon.

At least not until the Federal Reserve really starts cutting. And even then, think about it. if we don't cut until the FED gets to 4.75 we're still well above the 10-year treasury yield here, right? The FED could cut a whole percent and then we're still just in line with the 10-year treasury where it is now. And so my expectations are.

That leads to more pain for the real estate market. So actually, if we jump over to this chart right here in a weird way, this chart is actually flip-flopped for the real estate market. And that is that right now, we're actually probably just in the yellow phase for the real estate market, and we're more likely to see the orange face over in this region here. And we're more likely to see red over in this region.

Uh, for real estate. And that's because real estate is so much slower to react. And so this is where I really really right here. May June This Is My Hope And it's my plan.

Uh, it could be wrong. We'll see I always like to to at least make a prediction. So that way if things change at least I know what's changing and then I can revise my expectations right? But my expectation is that if stocks do end up moving better by the second quarter of next year, then I can move into real estate at a larger pain point. In my opinion, that's the best time to invest into house Hack, not personal financial advice.

I'm talking about myself. Okay, that's potentially the best time because then I can maybe trim a little bit from gained positions in stocks and move those into house hack. That's probably by then we should have our reg a live as well, so that could be a really opportune time. That does mean though, you have to get through this pain over here first and the uncertainty of what's going to happen with the Fed.
And if I am wrong, then here's how this chart actually looks. If I'm wrong. Okay, so let's say I'm wrong because if possible, I'm wrong, right? Maybe I'm maybe I'm being too hopeful. What if we end up having red all the way through Q3 of 2023 and then we actually get our orange in the stock market? And then we actually get our yellow in the stock market And we don't actually get our Green in the stock market until maybe q1 2024, right? That's possible.

That sounds really terrible and painful, but it's possible in this case. I would not expect the pain for the real estate market to really turn orange yet until the end of queue. Uh, the end of 2023 or the beginning of uh of 2024.. So for me, it doesn't really matter where that U-turn happens.

where does that flip happen? But in my opinion, that flip happens in a very clear way. Stocks hit bottom, start u-turning and then real estate hits bottom. Whether that happens, and real estate hits a bottom in in the summer of 23, or in the beginning of 2024, or even later when it happens, it doesn't matter because I'm not making moves right now. that says oh, I have to be right about the real estate uh situation right now.

we're gonna wait. We're gonna get that confirmation from the FED before we do anything, but that kind of overlay is what I'm expecting. and I'm looking for that inflection on the SCP for the next real level of bullishness. And unfortunately, that's not until March 22nd I Hate to say it, but that's that's three months away.

Jan Feb March That sucks. We're at December 23rd now now. Could there be bullishness between now and then? Sure more CPI data that comes down. But really, this is a time of patience and patience doesn't bode well If you're in margin, right? it doesn't do you good.

If you're in margin, it doesn't do you good if you're short-term speculating. So buckle up. Pay attention to what's going on in the market. Pay attention to the summaries I provide in the channel If you want to do fundamental analysis with me and learn, do fundamental analysis either on real estate or stocks in the course member live streams.

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34 thoughts on “Timing the federal reserve’s u-turn mark this date.”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Matthew Zellner says:

    Imo, June will be the time, not March -> we shall see. I think in March they will maintain the course and there won't be any deviations in SEP unless UI and CPI sort themselves out

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Slimecrazy234 says:

    God I can't believe we're all waiting for the fed to cut rates again. Mildly concerning for the economic system.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars abdi isse says:

    If this clown says bye please run if this clown sees cell please hold your things. Never listen to this guy

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Chris Choir says:

    Kevin you have been wrong on every call for a year. Why should we believe you now? Please make a video explaining yourself.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars shivam chadha says:

    To be simple, 2023 is accumulation phase, 2024- 2025 bull run.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jacob Smith says:

    Stocks will crash more when the housing really tumbles. Stocks won’t rebound before the housing crash.

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Alan Vint says:

    Thanks Kevin, sure helps with planning what to do…

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Not Financial Advice says:

    Market bottom will be in April goodnight

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Kyle says:

    Start DCA in spring. Break up your cash supply into 12months of weekly buying

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rickesh Patel says:

    Whatever Kevin does, do the opposite, unless you wanna find out the hard way 🤷🏽‍♂️

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Arturo says:

    hahahaha kev what u got on ya mouth mann?! hahahhaa

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michael Mourek says:

    Sam Bankman has a Private Jet FOR SALE – cheap – Buy Now

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michael Mourek says:

    Jet Airplanes are going down in value FAST – offer $2 million dollars for that $13 million dollar Jet

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michael Mourek says:

    Buy Tesla Stock at $100 a share – it will need to go down another 20%

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michael Mourek says:

    Ape Stock up over 100% in 2 days – AMC stock down – Preferred Shares – are worth more then Common Stock? You said NO

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michael Mourek says:

    Zoo poop is expensive – no shit

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Brandon says:

    Tsla, over under 55 by March 2023. Taking poll. Please respond.

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars kurdi98k says:

    Effin treasury yield stuck at around 4.7%. Hive me at least 6% for crying out loud.

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Newton says:

    Commodities are goin up for the last week…so ppi will go up…

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Arturo Valdez says:

    Where is this person ringing the bell and not talking about the stocks going down several weeks down in a row? They also need to mention all this bad market, why do they hide it?

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars William Jarvis says:

    The plunge protection team will not let the stock market operate freely, they keep intervening everything it gets around 3800. The stock market

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Zed Zed says:

    is it necessary to time the u-turn? i think the market has further to drop even after the u-turn.

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Gary Rogers says:

    Bull 💩

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars STEVE C says:

    Kevin, you keep looking better and better

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars David says:

    March 22 2 days before my birthday. Patience is key

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Kevin Cease says:

    I am so down in Tesla but I made a fortune and I’m going to buy so much stock over the next few months

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars C Daniel Nagy says:

    What U-turn? It's far away Kelvin! Keep your coupon code!

  28. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Dale Bruno says:

    What happen was Elon took off child porn and that got one side upset so they are selling everything thing they can because now they have nothing to live for anymore 😬

  29. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Siva says:

    Please don’t talk about your U-turn except this you are awesome 😂

  30. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Russty Russ says:

    Technically, they are pivoting, people and market just don't see it that way. Hence, still selling.
    Definitely feels like there has been a lot more tax loss harvesting selling this year compared to other years.
    An article was posted today stating that an important indicator has signaled a bullish sign pertaining to a reversal for 2023 : "Institutional investors over the past 12 months have poured significantly more money into U.S. equity funds than retail investors have taken out. And it's rare that the stock market falls for two years in a row, suggesting 2023 could be a pivotal year for the S&P 500 Index after this year's bear market."
    As you said, hope is not an investing strategy, but there is nonetheless hope and potential for a change of wind/wind of change.

  31. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ace says:

    Kevin is only now starting to figure out that he is WAY too early with House Hack. He's going to be sitting on other people's money for the next 18 months.

  32. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hashmat Zemaryalai says:

    Rent still high do to house prices groceries is ridiculous high the fed hasn't done shit and you think a U TURN is coming lol 😂 😆 🤣 all these pumpers want to pump till hyperinflation happens and there money they made won't be worth nothing

  33. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Sidney Paulson says:

    The fed is blind. The feds remain hawkish because congress remains out of control.

  34. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Cam Kupka says:

    If you want to know when the fed will pivot here it is.. the fed follows the 2 year yield.. there you go.. idk how people don’t bother to look this up..

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