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31 thoughts on “They finally got caught”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars HighMetal says:

    When you're worth 20 billion dollars none of the rules apply to you, you own everyone!

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars HighMetal says:

    So what your saying is that the SEC is completely useless. Sounds like we could save tax money by getting rid of them and just let the DOJ handle the stock market.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Karelia Aubert says:

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  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Handful of Spades says:

    All short selling is manipulating the market. Literally by definition.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars A M says:

    There has been countless times they go after shortsellers, curiously in a RAGING market…and have NEVER charged anyone…who in their right mind has the balls to buy when the market is crashing is not shortsellers COVERING their position???

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mark Debelich says:

    I have to disagree with you Tom, short selling should be banned, why?, for many reasons. First, short selling only benefits the short seller and it's basically gambling, a miss allocation of resources, the money should be invested in the production of goods and services. The argument that short selling firms produce market research for the greater good is far from the truth. There is a myriad of sources for market analysis in everything from firms advising what to buy and sell. Short selling manipulates markets and the bad actors ruin it for the apparently moral short sellers, temptation will always be there and succumb to temptation they do. You do a fine job yourself Tom doing your research and educating people, and that's what investing is all about, do your homework before you invest. By the time Joe average finds out about a report from some hedge fund who has a bet on, he's fucked, it's too late, it's all over the news and everybody wants to sell, short sellers do not benefit the retail investor. Tom, you called out NKLA many months before the dirty laundry came out, so do I need a short seller to tell me this or could I just listen to someone like you?

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars dman 61 says:

    Short selling is necessary, but they have made it their only business model these days. They are manipulating to achieve their outcome

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars mike martin says:

    How do you know what the DOJ will or won’t do? In other words, you’re talking out of your as ‘cause you DO NOT work at the DOJ or have any affiliation with any government for that matter.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Oshane Williams says:

    I disagree with you Tom Nash. At this point I'm in agreement with Elon Musk. I think short selling has created a more negative contribution to the market than a positive one. Yes one might say they were instrumental in exposing the fraud at Nikola, however the diesel gate scandal at Volkswagen was also exposed and short sellers weren't the ones responsible. Saying all that to say that, the exposure of fraud in companies will still be exposed even without the presence of short sellers. So if that's the only value they bring to the market, then it can otherwise be provided.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Randy C says:

    I'm pretty dam sure they won't do ANYTHING to those that have been manipulating the market all these years. They can't even prove it because they will just delete the evidence. I guarantee all the bear accounts will be deleted too. DOJ "might" implement new laws but that'll still be a slap on the wrist for the crooks, which will give them the opportunity to hire lawyers to help them find new loopholes around the new laws AS USUAL.

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Solyad says:

    Naked short selling is a crime. That's the bullshit that needs to be ended. Those pricks get to print their own money at the rest of the market's expense.
    They can all go die in a fire.

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars D Wnright says:

    I'm on the side of Elon on short selling. What went on with Nicola should not have happened. If there is fraud, call the FBI and/or other authorities. agree re DoJ.

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars marc sparenberg says:

    Why is every shortseller bad? I’m hedging my portfolio by shortselling. If shortselling is illegal all stocks will get into a huge bubble and the “corrections” will be much bigger, because the big guy’s will be forced to sell. They will never buy smallcaps again because it is way to risky.

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Noah Boddy says:

    Bernard Baruch was probably the greatest short seller ever and was equally hated. Hypocrisy and Government are no strangers when you consider the first SEC Chairman, Joseph Kennedy, hired specifically to go after the 'Bears', was himself, shortly before his appointment, enriched by a short sell. But, Baruch in a Congressional hearing put paid to the naysayers when he reminded them, “bears can only make money, if the bulls push up stocks to where they are overpriced and unsound.”

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars M says:

    There are other ways to expose fraudsters other than short selling, the concept of short selling is flawed, the chances of catching fraud is minimal, and greedy hedge funds need to create opportunities rather than relying on luck, so they create fake stories, bad PR…etc.

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rok Zakrajšek says:

    Sorry Tom, but i dont agree with that. How can you sell something you don't own? At the very least stock holders should be paid interest on the shares they borrowed to short sellers and ofcourse stock holders need to be asked if they agree to lend out their stock in the first place to avoid over 100% short of the stock. Nikola would crash with short sellers or not eventually people will realize they been had and sell. Remember institutions would do research if they wanted to buy its not just short sellers doing that. BAN SHORT SELLING

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Vicky Dada says:

    Short sellers should be exterminated- if you like a stock, buy it. If dont like it sell. Just one example of Nikola doesn't justify those scumbags!

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Artoe_LetsGOOO says:

    ive never shorted in my life, im scared to. but there is a need for it for crap companies. when shorts go too far? they should be slapped and pissed on, and have their clicker fingers chopped.

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars The Sim Architect says:

    Oh yes, they'll do something. Block retain investors from shorting 😂

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars daniel Gordon says:

    Yo when we gonna meet your grandfather? You've mentioned him too many times for us not to meet him.

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Thomas Cute says:

    Yeah but Tom hindenturds went after sos limited and used fake documents to create fear and a selloff and lied about the research they did. Even though sos legitimized themselves disclosing audited gaap earnings and even moving to the USA they beat them down so bad that millions of Americans lost a ton of money. They may of got Nikola right but thete track record is terrible and half there reports are make shift and false

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Anton K says:

    Tom where are the babushka's ? You're right nothing going to happen .

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars matt-tastic (AUS) says:

    The real question is, will they get the Russian neck tie or just a mini fine

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ryan Anderson says:

    It's okay to disagree with Elon about there's a lot too actually haha

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars DanW58 says:

    There's a huge usefulness to short-sellers. First of all, they take huge risk in short-selling. When you go long, the most you can lose is the money you spent. When you go short, there is no limit to how much money you can lose. Second, short-sellers provide downside stability to stocks. Longs sell when a stock is going down, unless they think it's "a dip", but even when they do they wait for the dip to bottom out. Longs only support stocks on the way up; they all jump out like rats from a sinking ship when a stock is going down. The only ones that buy stock as it goes down is short-sellers closing their positions when their target price is reached. Short-seller haters are uninformed investment newbies. Of course, there's also the kind of abusive short-sellers that they phone each other and agree to take down some stock, and they all attack at once like hyenas. But there's also abusive longs that buy a stock up to the moon, then sell at once, leaving millions holding the bag. I would say there's many abusive longs to every abusive short, in fact; and abusive longs should be punished as much as abusive shorts; but then they'd have to put everyone in jail that works for JP Morgan or Goldman…

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Bastian says:

    too bad they don't bust Nancy Pelosi and her husband for insider trading

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jack Greenstalk says:

    great take tom, dont even mind the background noise just straight to the good info no bs

  28. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Patrick O says:

    Wish they would go after Mary and GM. The lies are worse than nikola. She is going to cost a lot of people their jobs. Those jobs will all go to china.

  29. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars your wife's boyfriend says:

    They doj are looking at these guys and one of them are not even shorting anymore. They are looking at the wrong group of people. They are barking up the wrong tree. They need to look for the big sharks not the small fish.

  30. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Miguel Machado says:

    There must be a very good reason for not starting these kind of SEC actions beginning with PM's… What a joke.
    They'll find someone to blame and show off …

  31. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars D Mo says:

    Is short selling worth it for a retail investor, it seems like it would chew the average person up and spit them out.

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