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In this video we go over Tesla's ambitions to build an electric airplane.
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What's up guys and welcome to wall street millennial on this channel, we cover all things related to stocks and investing today we're doing a video about tesla's plans to disrupt the airline industry with an all-electric plane, tesla revolutionized, the automobile industry, by proving it's possible to make Mass-Market evs prior to tesla the legacy automakers thought this would be impossible. Elon musk has a history of pushing the envelope and achieving things that nobody thought would be possible both with tesla and spacex, which is the first company to make reusable orbital rockets. Tesla's corporate mission is to solve the climate crisis by advancing renewable energy to replace fossil fuels. They are already doing this with their electric vehicles in solar city.

However, one area of the economy that has so far resistant electrification is aviation. Passenger planes burn large amounts of jet fuel and currently account for about 2.5 percent of global emissions. While this doesn't sound like a lot, this number is expected to triple by 2050, as people in developing nations get rich enough to afford air travel. Passenger planes weigh hundreds of thousands of pounds and often have to fly for more than 10 hours at a time.

This makes electrification very difficult. However, elon musk has plans to apply tesla's, cutting edge technology and innovation to design an electric plane and revolutionize the aviation industry. Some of the time, how does it make a design for a plane? You do yes, a better design, i mean, probably i think it is yeah who've you talked to about this, and i've talked to friends, friends, friends and i'm your friend girlfriends. You can tell me, what do you got what's going on? Well, i mean the exciting thing to do would be some sort of electric vertical takeoff and landing supersonic jet of some kind of vertical takeoff, and let it mean no need for a runway, just shoot up straight in the air, and then musk says that he will Design, an electric jet that can accomplish vertical takeoff and landing and travel at supersonic speeds.

Vertical takeoff has been accomplished by military jets, including lockheed martin's f-35, but is extremely expensive and thus not able to be applied to commercial planes. A commercial plane with vertical takeoff capabilities will eliminate the need for runways and allow for smaller scale airports in rural communities. This will dramatically decrease costs and expand access to air travel. Musk also says the tesla plane will be supersonic, meaning it will travel faster than the speed of sound.

This could decrease the duration of a transatlantic flight to just a couple of hours. Tesla isn't the only company toying with the idea of an electric plane. There are a few other companies also researching the idea. For example, airbus recently unveiled the zero e electric concept passenger plane.

They do not have an actual design for the plane or the technology to make it work. It is merely a concept, but there are also some startups, such as lilium, which have developed all-electric air taxis. However, there are mostly small aircraft that can only carry a few people and travel short distances. They can be used for urban transport, but cannot replace long-haul commercial air travel.
Developing a large-scale long-haul electric plane will require billions of dollars of investment in new technologies. Aviation startups zoonum aero tried to do this, but they ran out of cash in 2019 and were forced to lay off the majority of their workforce. The only other companies with the financial wherewithal to potentially invest in such a project or the aerospace duopoly boeing and airbus. However, just like the legacy automakers boeing and airbus are unlikely to invest heavily in electrification because they don't want to cannibalize their traditional jet fuel-powered aircraft.

Furthermore, both of those companies have short-term focused investor bases who will not tolerate sacrificing short-term profitability to invest in new innovative technology. Tesla is the only company that has a realistic chance of developing a full-scale electric plane. Tesla's shareholders take a long-term view and are more willing to sacrifice quarterly profitability to invest in a massive market opportunity like electric aviation. Furthermore, tesla's market cap of 700 billion dollars is more than boeing and airbus combined.

This gives them the financial wherewithal to invest billions into this project. The biggest challenge in making an electric plane is the battery rechargeable batteries have three major technical disadvantages to gas engines one. They have much lower energy densities than fossil fuels, meaning that for the same amount of energy, you need a lot more battery than you would need fuel two. They have much lower discharge rates, which means that, even if you have a big enough battery in terms of capacity, it might not be able to produce enough power at a time to get a plane off the ground.

Three. They are much heavier than the equivalent amount of gasoline or jet fuel; in other words, batteries just need to be all around better. However, the developments in the battery industry over the years have drastically improved the state of the art. Take a look at this comparison of the different types of battery technologies in terms of energy density, which means the amount of energy a battery can store for each kilogram of weight.

Batteries have been drastically getting better. An older technology such as lead acid, can have as low as 30 watt hours per kilogram, which is the type of battery that cards use to start their engines. Lithium-Ion batteries, which are the type of battery that tesla uses in its electric vehicles, can have energy densities. More than five times that that's a huge benefit for an electric plane in terms of maximum discharge rate, the newer technologies are also getting huge improvements.
Lithium ion batteries have three times the voltage of older nickel, cadmium and nickel metal hydride batteries, as well as current discharge rates that rival or even exceed the older technologies. So for the same weight and capacity of battery, the newer technologies can produce much more power than older batteries compared to jet fuel. The most modern battery technology has about 20 percent of the energy density of jet fuel. The 80 deficit might seem like a big gap, but it's really not that much considering that the older technologies have more like a 96 deficit.

Also, there's no reason why a tesla plane would need to have the same energy density as jet fuel, but in order for tesla to actually make a viable plane, it probably still would have to come up with a new battery technology that has higher energy densities than What is available today, but there is already evidence that elon musk is going to go in that direction. He is already building a second gigafactory when the first one isn't even fully complete. Yet the point of the gigafactories is to bring things like battery production and research. In-House, along with their car production, according to tesla's website in mid-2018, the first gigafactory was already the largest battery plant in the world.

Tesla already produces more batteries in terms of total capacity in the entire rest of the car industry, combined just to reach their goals for car production, they would need to acquire the entire world supply of lithium-ion batteries, which is one reason why they are investing so heavily In battery technology and production, the economies of scale of musk's gigafactories are largely due to the battery production issue. It would be unthinkable to imagine that elon musk isn't already working on making his own batteries better, lighter and more powerful. Elon musk has already thought about the opportunities and potentially huge advantages of an electric plane on joe rogan's podcast. He even said that he already has a design for such a plane and gave a mathematical reason as to why electric planes would actually have a significant advantage over jet fuel if the energy density of batteries can be good enough.

The interesting thing about an electric plane is that you want to go as high as possible, but you need a certain energy density in the battery pack um because you have to overcome gravitational potential energy once you've overcome gravitational potential energy and you're at at a high Altitude, the energy you use in cruise is very low, and then you can recapture a large part of your the gravitational potential energy on the way down. So you really don't need any kind of reserve fuel if you will, because you have the the energy of height gravitational potential energy. This is a lot of energy. So so, once you can get high at high, you, the the like the way to think about a plane.
Is it's a force balance, so the force balance so a plane that is not accelerating. Um is a neutral force, balance yeah the force of gravity. If the lift force of the wings, then you've got the force of the whatever thrusting device, the the propeller or turbine or whatever it is, and you've got the resistance force of the air. Now the higher you go, the lower the air resistance is air density drops exponentially, but drag increases with the square.

An exponential beats a square. The higher you go, the faster you will go for the same amount of energy and at a certain altitude you will. You can go supersonic with less energy per mile, quite a lot less energy per mile than an aircraft at 35 000 feet. As he says, the air density reduces exponentially the higher you are.

This is a double-edged sword for jet fuel-powered airplanes, because the drag incurred by air density decreases, but the engines need to burn oxygen in order to produce thrust. Electric motors do not require this oxygen, so they bypass this problem. If electric planes just fly higher than jet fuel planes, do they'll require much less energy to be able to fly. Another advantage.

That elon mentions, as a major benefit, is that electric planes would be able to recover the gravitational potential energy when they land, which is actually a huge amount of energy. This is the same idea of regenerative braking in electric vehicles, where the kinetic energy of an ev or hybrid car can be used to recharge the battery. Pretty much for free saving energy and reducing the necessary size of the battery fossil fuel powered cars and planes are unable to do this. If musk is able to take all these advantages of electric planes and make a viable product, the opportunity will be massive on a scale we've never seen before.

He would be able to compete with boeing, an industrial behemoth, selling planes that cost hundreds of millions of dollars. Each boeing is one of the most valuable companies in the world and is a dial component with the market cap historically averaging about 200 billion dollars, tesla would graduate from competing with relatively smaller companies like ford and gm and entered the big leagues of boeing and airbus. This industry could be triple the size of opportunity for musk, as the car industry was at least in the beginning. People thought musk was crazy for trying to make mass-market evs, but over time they improved the technology and reduced costs to an extent that nobody thought was even possible.

Now. Tesla has a market valuation greater than most of the other automakers combined tesla already has a multi-year head start on battery technology. They can also form cross-functional teams with engineers from spacex to design the plane. If anyone can develop an electric plane, it's elon musk, alright, guys that wraps it up for this video.
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29 thoughts on “Tesla airplane revealed: musk’s plan to disrupt aviation”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars alex1 says:

    700B market cap does not mean that they have 700B. It means that their share_price*share_value=700B LOL They IPOed the shares for much less…

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Alex Rascol says:

    ”The present is theirs; the future, for which I really worked, is mine.“ — Nikola Tesla

    The American humor is that we are so greedy we let money, profit, race and religion get in the way of coming together to better humanity.

    It’s sad but that’s how the system is. We must rise above all this noise and confusion, set our differences aside and look at the future of humanity. Under the heavens, under the sky’s there is but one family. We don’t need to fight, we don’t need to hoard. Money is not real, only a materialistic distraction we have created as apart of a flawed system. The system only cares about profit and keeping you alive to feed into it. It dose not care for innovation. We are all living on this beautiful planet together and there so much to discover and learn from nature since the blueprint has already been perfected for us. None of that will ever matter if we do not progress and awake to this realization 🌍 📈

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Janaka Goonasekera says:

    Oh, I have a design for a plane. Just like I had a design for a train!

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Assembler says:

    To all the naysayers…, the initial thrust and takeoff require high energy and that's where the Supercapacitors come to help… With the present conditions and commercially available technology it could be difficult to imagine an electric airplane. But our limitations are due to current airplane parameters like the size, distance, number of passengers, fuel, etc. We may need to fundamentally change the way we look at Air travel with respect to electric planes. Imagine 100s of powerful drones air-lifting a big passenger air-chamber… Possibilities are plenty.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Lauri Koskinen says:

    A fully electric plane is not feasible without miniature fusion reactors. The only reasons hydrocarbons work so well is because majority of the fuel is already in the air in the form of oxygen.
    A much more sufficient plane would have one conventional jet engine for takeoffs and propels powered by batteries for cruising. Anyhow, even this is not possible with current battery technology and we need a miraculous revolutionary invention there to make it commercially viable in our lifetime.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rathan Devlish says:

    Lol this will not happen he proposed a hyperloop system instead of High speed rail there's so many problems that come with an electric plane let alone creating one with votl elon musk is great but people need to stop hyping him too much electric planes simply are not feasible or reliable

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hola! Miguel Castaneda says:

    he doesent achive his employees do…quit giveing credit where its not..its his workers..

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Andreas Müller says:

    There is one problem with Elon's argument: if drag decreases exponentially, then lift also decreases exponentially. Lift also goes with the square of the velocity, so height always beats velocity (his words). And then there is his illusion that a lot of energy can be recovered. This is simply not true: most energy during a flight is dissipated via drag. The only thing that could potentially be recovered is the potential energy, but again, when planes return from high altitude, they still need their engines, so there is nothing left to recover: a plane dissipates all potential energy and then some more. Gilder planes recover nothing on the way down, all potential energy is naturally dissipated via drag. There simply isn't much left to recover except if you are designing a dive bomber.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mouhamed Bouhawel says:

    As a pilot….oh god plz don't!!!we Can't handle eny more pain!!!

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hardcore Doom says:

    This video is all speculation. Musk never said anything about this. You're pulling it all right out of your arse.

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars KOB says:

    I double PROMISE you this: Tesla will NEVER produce an all-electric airplane. Never.

    Do the heat energy equation and then ask yourself if Musk is a god of some kind that can change or defeat the laws of nature.

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars PollieBear says:

    Yeah but wait…You need air to produce thrust. The higher you fly the less air is available to produce thrust. Unless you use Ion thrusters.

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Leon Paredes says:

    Just wait till his electric submarine. Going to blow everyone away.

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Richard Kudrna says:

    The idea of using a battery pack to get to altitude then eject the battery to fly to ground on its own while you don’t carry the weight is quite helpful.
    Autonomous small aircraft are quite safe so say a two ton winged battery separating and landing on its own is quite realistic for a commuter aircraft.

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Patattack says:

    Musk gets high and convinces himself he can make a electric vtol jet. Somehow convinces other people too

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Tech Trends says:

    I've made a very detailed and accurate video on the same topic! it's also very engaging, you'll like it!

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jordan S says:

    he did not say that is his goal he said the exciting thing to do would be making a supersonic VTOL electric jet he did not say this was what he is going to do. at least for now

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Not-a-bird Person says:

    As a guy who has been in aerospace for around 7 years and who'll have his bachelor's in aerospace engineering soon, take what I say with a grain of salt, but you've oversimplified the problem by a huge factor here. You've also miscalculated the comparison of energy density between jet fuel and batteries, lithium ion batteries can go to about 1 MJ/kg while jet fuel goes to around 43 MJ/kg which is NOT an 80% difference, this means batteries have about 2% of the current jet fuel energy density. This is nothing in comparison to jet fuel and that's also ignoring the fact that a purely battery based aircraft, by design, is going to be less efficient than a typical aircraft in terms of range, even at the same energy density because you need to carry those batteries with the aircraft compared to jet fuel you're burning. That's a solid 25-50% range penalty purely based on the increased weight you're carrying through the whole trip depending on the size of the aircraft. The whole battery powered aircraft thing is very much a fad that'll never be viable for large aircrafts, only small ones and even for those I'd be skeptical that they'll stick. With barely 20-45 minutes of flight, you'll barely be able to do anything, let alone reach mach 1 and above.

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Another bod says:

    wow – does anyone actually believe this crap? oh yeah tesla hodlers…

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Brooks S says:

    You could coast and use the turbines to replenish the batteries on the way down. It actually makes sense.

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars john patrick says:

    Battery weights remain the same from beginning to end of the trip while jet fuel weight decreases as it is burned and reduces the weight of the plane which increases efficiency.

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars john patrick says:

    Still waiting for 750 mph hyper-loops. His latest Las Vegas 1 mile long $52 million tunnel with 30 mph human-driven Teslas should be in the record book for one of the biggest scams known.

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars PG Guru says:

    This idea is worse than Hyperloop. Never ever happening. Airbus is using Hydrogen as fuel and they have over 30 years of research work.

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Subzero says:

    Superpowers die in Afghanistan Billionaires die starting Airlines.

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michael Miller says:

    Another terrible idea. Just like hyperloop and earth-to-earth rockets. Would be great for a fantasy film, but a terrible waste of capital in the real world.

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Justin J says:

    The pinnacle of Lithium Ion battery technology has an energy density of 265 Watt-Hours per Kg.

    Jet-A (Kerosene) has an energy density of 42.8 MJ/Kg. Multiply by 277.778Wh per MJ…

    Equals 11,888.89 Watt-Hours per Kg for Jet-A.

    That's 44.86-TIMES more energy per weight then the BEST battery available. Said another way: Best Lithium Ion Battery technology yet decided provides only 2.22% of the energy per weight as Jet fuel.

    Which means for the same airplane you can only go 2% as far in distance. So your ultra long range jet that used to go 7,000 miles to Japan can now only go 156 miles before you are out of battery power and must land in the pacific, barely out of sight of where you just left from LAX.

    Also: You cannot land with a full fuel load. Jets landing gear is made as light as possible to maximize payload/passengers and efficiency, it's wheels can only support about 85% of its max takeoff weight. And jets require that you fly then and lose some fuel weight in order to land. To go Electric means beefing up landing gear which adds thousands of pounds to the basic empty weight.

    Also, a jet that's arriving to its destination in Japan has burned off most of it's fuel weight and therefore has loads of power to weight ratio in case you need to go-around a missed approach. Having less weight at the end of the flight is a huge saftey benefit from an aircraft performance standpoint.

    Elon is a smart guy. But he needs to realize that you cannot just waltz in and change the fundamentals of aviation or physics.

    And yes, I listened intently to his conversation about aircraft on Joe Rogans JRE. Elon has figured out what it will take (making the battery a major Structural member to save weight, and blasting to high altitude with its power available then crusing at extreme high altitude where the air is thin, Approximatly where the SR-71 reached it's absolute maximum ceiling). This won't work. Because the SR-71 crews had to ware space suits because an emergency or depressurization would result in IMMEDIATE DEATH at 80,000' MSL. Airlines at 40,000' only have to decend a little to keep everyone alive, and a little more for everyone to breath fine. People climb Everest at 29,000' so you can definitely survive at 30k for at least 15-30 minutes, maybe several hours or more. Not so at the edge of space.

    Another problem is the fact the SR-71 Had to maintain Approximatly MACH-3 or 2,000 miles an hour to achieve enough lift to fly that high and they could not slow down, due to the "coffin corner" effect.

    How the actual fuck are you going to get an electric airplane with fan motors to Mach3+? You need an exhaust exit velocity of at least 2,200-2,500mph in order to get the plane to 2,000mph. It's IMPOSSIBLE to get supersonic or hypersonic airflow out of a propeller or electric fan. You need AFTERBURNERS to get that exhaust velocity. And the SR-71 Flew with it's afterburners lit blasting blue shock-diamonds out it's tailpipes 100% of the time.

    If you want to save the environment from hydrocarbons from aerospace then STOP LIGHTING OFF GIANT ROMAN CANDLE ROCKETS EVERY WEEK. They pollute more in one launch then a hundred Americans do in their combined lifetimes and you do it in order to inhabit a red planet with no life or biomass that has an atmosphere that is NINTY NINE PERCENT carbon dioxide that's 990,000!!! parts per million, as opposed to earths lowly 425ppm.

    If you can fucking figure out how to live in 99% carbon atmosphere then we can all figure out how to live in 0.004% carbon with 21% oxygen just fine.

    It's incoherent.

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Andy Leo says:

    Their cars are crap so of course let them build airplanes. What could go wrong? 😆🤣

  28. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Brook Smith says:

    Elon has said many this is the hardest of all battery-powered vehicles. So much more battery tech needs to improve by an order of magnitude.

  29. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars S C says:

    He's accomplished so much, it's hard to know when he's trolling.

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