Palantir Is Finished? [Why Alex Karp Sold His PLTR Shares?]
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Information regarding the total Class A and B holdings of Alex Karp, as well as the 141 million options grant can be found here:
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1321655/000119312521140597/d137991ddef14a.htm #toc137991_44
Latest (May 19) Alex Karp insider sale report can be found here:
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1321655/000120919121035147/xslF345X03/doc4.xml
Information on how Rule 10b5-1 trading plans work:
https://www.2iqresearch.com/blog/what-is-a-rule-10b5-1-trading-plan #:~:text=A%20Rule%2010b5%2D1%20trading%20plan%20is%20a%20pre%2Darranged,(or%20buy)%20company%20stock.&text=Or%2C%20they%20could%20establish%20a,price%20reaches%20a%20specific%20level.
How stock options are taxed in the U.S.:
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/active-trading/061615/how-stock-options-are-taxed-reported.asp
Link to Felix & Friends video about the latest Alex Karp sale:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEeKQDX-_Fk
CNBC article with a fairly decent recap of Alex Karp salary structure:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/29/palantir-ceo-karp-earned-1point1-billion-in-2020-tied-to-equity-awards.html #:~:text=In%20August%2C%20a%20month%20before,a%20proxy%20filing%20on%20Thursday.
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Okay, so if you're concerned about the latest palantir news about more insiders telling stay with me, i got you covered on this channel. I want to give you real financial analysis without any agenda. I'm not gon na hype, i'm not gon na hate. I'm just gon na give you the new one's truth without trying to sell you anything, no courses, no products, no services, just the real financial news.

Without anything beyond that, the only thing i ask of you: don't click, nothing, don't smash, nothing don't buy. Nothing. Just give me your attention for the next five minutes. I'm gon na explain to you exactly what's going on with palantir and why you should not be worried about the recent news now.

As you know, in my videos, i don't like to hold you hostage. So the bottom line comes first, i'm not gon na drag you through the entire video. Just for you to find out what the conclusion is. So essentially, it is a tax driven play by alex carp.

He has no choice. He had to sell a few shares, but trust me, people are not understanding how much shares are being sold versus how much still is being held by him. It is really amusing to see people who claim to be financial experts and value investors completely missed this point and in this video i'm gon na set the record straight. If that was the only thing you needed, don't worry, palantir is still going strong.

This is meaningless, but if you want to see the technicalities and since i'm actually in llm in international attacks, so i've been doing this for years, i'm going to break apart exactly what's going on here. In fact, i'm gon na blow your mind, i'm gon na show you why alex carp is not even aware of these sales at all. It's completely automatic, i'm gon na show you in just a second stay with me. My name is tom nash and i quit my corporate job as a senior financial analyst to break down companies for you there's one thing you need to know about me: i don't take from anybody, so yesterday's numbers came out and everybody was freaking out.

The palantir haters came out out of their holes, but don't worry in this video i'm about to put them right back wherever they crawl from i'm going to show you everything. So basically what happened yesterday, we got noticed that alex carp made another sale. So basically, we all got an email notifying us that alex carp sold 1.8 million shares and by the way, let's just use 2 million. Just for the sake of simplicity, the price was 20.7, but let's use 20 just for simplicity and the cost basis was 10 cents, which makes it extremely simple.

Now all the volunteer haters are about to get shellacked in this video check this out. So essentially, he just made 40 million dollars yesterday, because his cost base is 10 cents. He sold it at 20, so the dude just made 40 million dollars. Why is he selling what the hell alex right? You know this company is about to go ballistic.

Why are you selling at 20? Do you not believe in your own company? That looks bad, not exactly. Let me show you yesterday, this form was all over the internet. People were looking at it saying well look at how much he's selling he's only keeping six million shares of valentines 6.4 million. How can it be alex? What are you doing so? First of all, i don't blame people for not knowing how to read cap tables.
I mean they can be really complicated in companies like this, but alex carp does not only own 6.4 million shares of valentine. If you look at the actual numbers and by the way this is from schedule 14a, you can see that he has class b shares of 74 million. Now the only difference between class b and class, a some voting rights, but essentially financially those are identical. So he almost about 81 million shares of volunteer, so not six 81 million.

Okay, let's put this in proportion. First now we just saw that alex carp owns 81 million shares of valentine's straight up no option now. Here's the thing those shares are worth 1.6 billion dollars, but on paper and we can do paper, but it can be a little bit tricky. I mean he doesn't really have 1.6 billion dollars, it's all up in the air right now, but here's the thing.

Last year, in 2020, the dude made 1.1 million dollars in actual salary now with other expenses security, whatever he made about three million, but that was pretty much his own kind of net income for last year. Now that's a huge difference within 3 million and the 1.6 billion, which is kind of imaginary. At this point now here's the thing in august 2020, just before they went and directly listed the company, the company granted him this. Let me show you the numbers, because this is fascinating: they gave him 141 million shares of the company, but in options and with quarterly vesting, essentially every quarter a little bit of it gets vested, which means essentially, it gets activated now.

In addition, he got 39 million of rsu's restricted stock units. Essentially these are stock. I mean for all these purposes, so the tax bill on this was pretty massive. Now the 39 million, i think, was taxable right away, but that's not the point.

Let's focus on the 141 million in options. Now those options created a quarterly investing schedule. Every quarter a little bit of it actually gets vested every time. Now what happens when the new quarter comes in and the new options are vested the new batch and i'm not going to go into the technicalities, but if you can ascertain the price of the stock upon the vesting of the option? That means that the difference between your cost basis and the actual market price of the share is a taxable event in this case.

It's ten cents versus twenty dollars, so he has to pay tax a taxable event on twenty dollars per share for every vesting event, which is insane. Let me show you the numbers, but before i do, i hope you don't mind me actually clarifying this again. Those 141 million options has nothing to do nothing whatsoever with the 81 million shares he has been diamond handing since day, one nothing and actually, since he got granted this back in august 2020, he sold about 33 million shares worth about 447 million dollars a lot of Money, however, mind the numbers he only sold about twenty percent of the grant. Eighty percent of that options grant is still being handed by alex carr.
The only thing he sold was twenty percent. Why did he sell these twenty percent? Why did he sell for specifically four hundred and fifty million dollars? Let me show you because the numbers are going to blow you away in just a second. Now, let's go back to the vesting specifically this latest vesting, which we all got updated about, so he had 1.8 million shares vested. That means he has a taxable event on income of 40 million dollars, specifically just in this quarter, by getting no dollars in his pocket.

Nothing he didn't get an extra dollar, but he has a tax bill based on 40 million of actual income which he didn't receive. That creates an issue so whatever his tax bracket is and we're going to talk about it in a second, it's a lot of money, but we're just talking about one quarter and only 2 million out of 141 million. That's a lot not even talking about the 40 million in rsu's, which are also taxable it's a lot of tax liability that he has to pay. Now, let's multiply this by 70, because this 2 million are only part of the 141.

So we're talking about 70 times more that one billion dollars in tax liability, not one billion, that he has to pay, but the taxable event is one billion dollars of income. Now, since he lives in colorado, the effective tax rate would be about 41, giving it about or exactly 450 million dollars. That's the tax liability on this one billion options grant now. If that number sounds familiar, that's because that's exactly identical to the 447 million that he sold so far.

Now you see exactly what's going on, but wait. It gets better because trust me, based on what i know and i've seen a lot of these in my career. These are pre-scheduled now rule105b actually allows you to pre-schedule these sales in order to avoid any claims of insider selling. That's how you avoid getting accused of any insider trading, good or bad, so essentially, if he pre-scheduled these exactly according to the tax bill and he generated just enough income to pay the tax bill and he's still diamond handing the rest of that 141 million grant and Plus he has 81 million shares.

That tells you everything you need to know. He probably didn't even know that these shares were sold. It's automatic now, i'm not his attorney, i'm not his tax attorney. I don't know exactly what's going on.

This is just my opinion. I'm just hypothetizing based on what i know, so this might be inaccurate, might be wrong, might be the ramblings of a madman. You got ta, do your research and find it for yourself, allegedly blah blah blah, and that's boys and girls, how you handle fud and panic. Using numbers, facts and legislation with zero opinion, just the numbers prove that all these panic and haters and fudsters have no idea what they're talking about or maybe even worse, they know, and they still do it, which is actually even worse.
I don't know in any case huge shout out to our palantirs, the patriots and the channel members shout out to felix and friends. One of my favorite channels go subscribe to him. He has 20 thousand subscribers. Let's get him up.

There he's a huge fan of your fan and a close friend of mine shout out to you felix great videos, we'll see you guys in the next video.

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33 thoughts on “Palantir is finished? [why alex karp sold his pltr shares?]”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rayan Jabur says:

    Please do not change your ways man, subbed and love your honesty and helpfulness

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Guan Sim Teh says:

    The people putting out all these FUD are probably the short sellers.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Gianni Zorbas says:

    Insiders could be selling their shares for any number of different reasons, they only buy shares for 1.

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Lester Liu says:

    baiscally, he need to sell 22 million shares at 20 dollars, in order to exercise his 141million shares worth of options, by about the end of the year. the daily volume of the stock is about 25 million. the question is how much he has sold so far, so we could determine the timing of the up trend.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Maxvalue says:

    Is it me or Is this directed straight to felix( shots fired) I see friction here! ๐Ÿคช

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Brandon Glanville says:

    Even a founder or CEO of a company needs to balance his/her portfolio to some degree. Beyond taxes and vesting… diversification is also has to be a consideration.

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars John Cho says:

    Love listening to these videos every morning

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Peter Piper says:

    im in for the long haul. i couldnt care less what the daily moves are. long n strong 10ys + just like my TSLA buy in 2012.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Georg Sisow says:

    "Don't buy nothing." … ๐Ÿค”… isn't this actually meaning "buy something"?

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Enrique Bordier says:

    PLTR FOR LONG TERM ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿ”œ data is the future.
    ADXS IS A BUY .50 to 2.25 is a cancer bio with good products on the pipe. Check it out ?

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars CG Crow says:

    I still think they should pay dividends. Not so much it burdens the company, but I think it would encourage a lot more people to hold for the long term, especially since that's the growth model Alex Karp is targeting.

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Haim B says:

    Tom !
    The man , the legend !!!
    Blowing minds with your valuable info !!
    Love your work

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Wang Jingyi says:

    Has Elon sold any shares before Teslaโ€™s run up?

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars C P says:

    Happy to see someone dive into the importance of the different share types.

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars thomas blaszczyk says:

    Gates,bezos, all are selling so they can buy when the market crashes

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Manuel Medina says:

    Please give Felix & Friends some tips. Thank You…

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Karen Kirwan says:

    I received employee stock options and I didn't have to pay taxes until sold…sounds like they have a terrible ESOP structure.

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Dragonfly says:

    I own 1000 shares of Palantir, someone pumped me in at $29, i've been averaging down since, and it keeps dropping but have heard some guy speaking of making over $300k within a 6 months period so I'm driven to ask what skillset and strategy can generate such profit

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Brian Borkowski says:

    Is it accurate to say that he has 141 + 39 + 74.7 + 6.4 for total 261.1 shares?

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Alexander Kovarik says:

    As a PLTR investor, Im not happy with the share dilution and the lack of profitability this quarter. They are also using investor good faith to fulfill their tax obligations, which is not what investor money is supposed to be used for. I'm considering trimming my position, depending on Q3 earnings. Its okay to pay a premium for growth but not at any price.

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Raรบl Alejandro says:

    You're my favorite youtuber Tom, learn a bunch here, thank you so much.

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Flex Toronto says:

    I wonder if some of the Palantir bears actually listened to your arguments or put it off before even listening to your bull case.

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Manuel Nardin says:

    Tom's ears that goes up and down while he speak are really fascinating

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars TacoMan D says:

    Stayin strong on PLTR just like I am in SHIB INU haha

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Im_This_ Guy says:

    Cost basis 10 cents.
    He should have sold a while ago.

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ray johnson says:

    He's selling while it's trading at 20 times its book value and 35 times its sales and guess who is buying it.

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars R R says:

    "Tom Nash, putting people in their place since…."(Tom, fill this out for me so i can make a shirt)๐Ÿ˜…

  28. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars mark smith says:

    It's in a downtrend and is going way lower ,, will be lucky if it's 12 bucks within the next 5 weeks !

  29. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars avengethis97 says:

    The new Elizabeth smart. Always said it palantir is a scam

  30. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars John Doe says:

    hey tom, just want to let you know, I appreciate your BOTTOMLINE.

  31. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Billy Lively says:

    Tom you got to talk to Felix about his approach, I watched his video for like two minutes all he did was talk about how palantir is doomed because alex karp sold his shares. Maybe he was being dramatic to make his point later in the video but by then I already wrote him off as an idiot and blocked his channel from my suggestions.

  32. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Lying Eyes says:

    How about other cryptoโ€™s that are currently crashing?

  33. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Gully says:

    Appreciate your efforts and videoโ€™s! Big shout out๐Ÿ‘

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