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What's up grandma's guys here so normally i don't make videos like this and i try to stay away from topics that might get taken out of context or politicized. But lately it seems, like there's been non-stop, talk, fear and disagreements about the plans to increase tax rates to levels not last seen since the 1920s and how that could have a negative consequence on the market and, honestly, it's easy to see why this is such a Sensitive topic, like shortly after it was announced that a new increased tax plan would take shape this week. The markets reacted somewhat unexpectedly. The dow instantly dropped 300 points, bitcoin dropped below 50 000 and a wave of articles began to surface about how this would prompt the selling of nearly 200 billion dollars worth of assets all at once prior to this going into effect.

But here's the thing, even though this is meant to be a tax increase on individuals earning over four hundred thousand dollars a year, and it's easy to look at that and say: hey. You know what it doesn't. Impact me. Why bother? The reality is no matter how much money you make or what you do for a living.

This is going to impact you in one way or another, so it's incredibly important to understand the taxes being proposed. How this could change the landscape of investing and how your own finances could be changed after all of this is said and done, and of course, when it comes to topics like this, i don't get into politics. I don't take sides. I just look at the facts.

Objectively and that's it that way, we could just entirely focus on what's important, like taxing a like button for the youtube algorithm by making it turn blue. That's right! It's our duty as youtubers to make sure you do your part in reducing the like button deficit by smashing it and best of all every like button is completely free and takes just a moment to help out the channel. So, thank you guys so much and now with that said, let's begin all right, so we got to talk about the new proposal exactly what this entails and why all of this is happening in the first place right now, there are two proposals in the works to Help the american economy, the first one, is the infrastructure package unveiled on march 31st at the cost of two trillion dollars over the next 10 years. This plan aims to revitalize transportation, water systems and manufacturing, along with research and development for new job training.

The expectation is that by spending money now that would create more jobs, boost economic activity and that long term, that would be the benefit of everybody. But, of course, speaking of the cost coming up with two trillion dollars is not exactly free in order to pay. For this, a corporate tax rate hike was proposed. That would increase the tax rate from 21, where it is today and bump it up to 28, along with a minimum tax of 21 for any multinational corporation, to make sure they don't just set up a headquarters in ireland and then all of a sudden they own.
Nothing, the hope is that by implementing these changes, a corporate tax rate hike would generate an additional 2 trillion dollars of revenue over the next 10 years. So in theory, they could raise taxes and then use that money to reinvest back into the economy. For a more thorough recovery, but before we talk about the implications of that and how that would impact you, let's talk about the second part of the spending proposal, which is the entire reason you clicked on this video to begin with, and that would be the increase In personal tax rates to help offset the cost of the american families plan, which is estimated to cost another 1.8 trillion dollars, this would help fund childcare, free community college paid family and medical leave, expand the monthly child care credit to 2025 and improve several other measures. With the intention of helping families in need and furthering education within the economy, now of course, like the first 1.8 trillion dollars doesn't just magically appear out of thin air, even though kind of in a way it does, but to help offset the ongoing expense.

Three key points were mentioned: first, they would raise the top marginal tax rate from 37 to 39.6, which is where it was anyway, before the 2017 tax cuts jobs act. Second, they would also raise the capital gains tax rate on anyone making over a million dollars a year from 20, all the way up to 39.6. And finally, third, there will be an increase to enforcement within the irs to make sure that all taxes are properly being collected. But here's where things take a slightly different turn, even though i get it it's easy to say, and you know what it doesn't impact me as long as i'm, not the one paying for it.

Just don't tax the rich, i'm okay with that! Well, like it or not, there are other implications to this that need to be considered, and this is what some people are warning might happen. First, let's talk about the stock market, because this would have a direct impact on the value of your investments and how much money you make now. It's no surprise that, upon the announcement of a brand new capital gains, tax stocks immediately began selling off, and even though that wasn't a permanent drop, the question still remains. What would actually happen if this were to go into effect? Well, the most obvious answer would be that wealthy investors would be highly incentivized to sell off all of their long-term capital gains prior to this, going into effect, pay a lower capital gains rate up front and then step up their tax basis for future profits.

If that happens, analysts at goldman sachs found that the s p 500 dropped an average of four percent ahead of a tax increase and momentum stocks saw an average drop of almost 10 percent. They also found that the last time the capital gains rate was increased. In 2013, the wealthiest household sold one percent of their equity assets, which, if that holds true today, roughly 178 billion dollars would be sold off from the stock market in a relatively short period of time. It was also discovered that, on average, the market recovered just six months after a tax hike going into effect and from there things just kept moving on as usual.
However, i hate to be a debbie downer, but here's the thing that information was based on the 2013 capital gains tax hike which increased the capital gains rate from 15 to 20, which represents a total change of 33.3. But today the new proposal would increase that tax rate from 20 all the way up to almost 40, which represents a 100 increase in taxation or three times higher than what we saw in 2013.. So those numbers could very well just be the beginning of what we actually see not to mention in 2013, when this tax rate went into effect, we were just barely beginning to recover from the great financial crisis and the markets had just barely begun to reach. The same levels they were trading at at the peak of 2007., so chances are the wealthy households did not have the same level of appreciation and profit that they're seeing today now, as far as the long-term outlook of the stock market, that's where things start looking a Little bit more hazy because it just depends on which data you look at.

For example, according to lpl financial, the s p 500 gained an average of 1.4 percent in the three months before a new tax went into effect, going all the way back to 1969., then from there stocks surged 6.4 during the following three months after it went into Effect with the overall market to up 4.3 after that first year, but unfortunately that doesn't really give you an accurate picture, because what they're not telling you is that the 2013 bull run skewed the average market performance by a lot rising up 25 in price right. After a major financial catastrophe, they also happen to have left out that the markets ended up dropping 30 by the end of 1987 and by 1968. The markets were also down 30 percent, but to be fair during those times there was a lot more going on than just a tax increase and it's really unclear how much of a factor increased taxes paid over the following 12 months, but either way. All of that is really just a fancy way of saying that tax increases only play a small component of how the stock market reacts and, in my opinion, a tax increase on its own is not enough to destroy the stock market.

But a tax increase in conjunction with other policies, could be enough to sway investments from one asset class to another, and that could eventually come back on you, even though you don't make enough money to be impacted directly by these changes. For example, it is true that this tax increase would not directly impact 75 of stock owners. On top of that, it's also true that 99.7 of taxpayers don't make a million dollars a year to be impacted by any change to a capital gains tax. So again, on the surface, almost all of you watching would not see a direct difference, but here's where it would have a higher likelihood of impacting you.
First of all, it's important to realize that, even though 99.7 of households won't be affected, that top one percent controls nearly 51 percent of the stock market and 38 of equity value. So there is very much an imbalance in terms of how much control that top one percent has in the markets if they shift to their investments. It's inevitable: that's going to have a ripple effect across the entire market and as someone who falls in that income category, here's what i think might happen number one. I think quite a few people might see less of a reason to invest in the stock market.

Like i think, one of the most attractive parts of investing long term is getting to take advantage of the long-term capital gains tax rate, which is a flat 20 percent. If you're, making about 400 000 a year and what's even more impressive, is that i just said all of that in one breath now. The reasoning for this low tax rate to begin with is that so the government can incentivize you to hold your investment long term. The money you invest is already taxed up front to begin with, and each and every year the purchasing power of your money is degraded thanks to inflation, not to mention investment income is not guaranteed like the income you make from working a job, and there are plenty Of risks associated with investing your money, so less tax here would encourage more overall investment for everybody, but with a higher tax rate, investors are going to start thinking about the risk versus reward of the stock market like if you make over a million dollars a year And this goes through, you would be paying a 39.6 capital gains, tax rate, a 3.8 investment surtax and a state tax rate as high as 13.3 percent.

So when all this is said and done, you could be looking at the lowest tax rate of 43.4 percent. If you happen to live in a state with no state income tax or as high as fifty six point, seven percent, if you happen to live in either california or new york - and i got ta say when you're responsible for taking on a hundred percent of the Risk, but you only get to keep slightly more than fifty percent of the upside. It skews your investment decisions into other alternative asset classes that might end up giving you a more balanced return. For example, real estate would offer consistent depreciation against the rental income generated and for me, that would be a superior investment over the stock market.

Second, i think we would also see less money invested in startup companies or other businesses that need to raise money in order to grow like when i invest in a company like this. I take the risk of tying up my money, potentially for decades, without having any access to it at all. I also take the very high risk that that investment could be worth nothing in the future, and i calculate that risk into the likelihood that i could do really well in the future, while enjoying a long-term capital gains. Tax rate and i'll be honest, i feel that quite a few investors would be less likely to take that risk if they felt their upside is capped at the same tax rate as they pan ordinary income.
That's guaranteed. If that happens, fewer companies get funding and there's less of a push for innovation that otherwise would have existed. This also has the chance of falling back on business owners, who don't make a million dollars a year, but perhaps they've spent their entire lives, building up a company from the ground up refusing to sell it, never taking a salary beyond the bare essentials. Only to one day sell it for three million dollars and have to give half of it back because they happen to sell it all at once, triggering the highest possible tax bracket.

Third, i also think we're going to see a big push towards the roth ira, which allows you to invest your money after paying tax and then all the profit you make within the account is completely tax-free after the age of 59 and a half now this one Is not really a huge change from today and the roth ira has been around for quite some time, but i think we're going to see a lot of people take advantage of the mega backdoor roth ira contributions, self-directed roth accounts and anything else that would avoid more Tax and retirement and fourth, we're probably gon na - have a portion of investors trying to find a way around this or patiently wait for this provision to expire before they go and sell. For example, capital gains is only taxed when you sell, but what, if you don't, sell and just take out a loan against your investments instead? Well, in that case, you just go and spend the loan. You pay a few percent in interest and that's a lot cheaper than going and paying 40 to 50 percent up front. We might also see people restructuring their incomes to defer it into future years and then cash out capital gains during low income times or finding other ways to reduce their taxable income on paper, so that that way they can go and sell off their investments.

Now i'm sure this is only going to impact the small portion of investors and most people are not going to go out of their way to try to avoid it, but a lot of times money could do some crazy things, but, okay, fine. We get that. I'm sure what you want to know is: how does this impact you, if you don't make above 400 000 a year and all you do, is just go and invest in an s, p, 500 index fund and that's it well. According to the tax foundation, increasing the corporate income tax would reduce the long-run economic output by 0.8.

It would eliminate 159 000 jobs and reduce wages by 0.7 percent. The bottom 20 percent of workers would have it slightly worse than the average, seeing an average wage reduction of 1.45 after tax. The reason for this in theory is that it would reduce the incentive to invest in the united states and that in turn, would lead to lower growth. But here's the thing, even if we do see a decrease in take-home pay.
There is something to be said about paying towards an economy where everyone has a chance to participate and benefit like. I would gladly pay 10 more in taxes. If that meant, we would actually have proper health care services, proper mental health facilities and roads that don't have potholes. Although we do have to take a close look at the amount of spending proposed where it's going and how much is actually generated by such measures like right now, if all the changes currently went into effect, it would generate a dynamic revenue of 2.78 trillion dollars over The next 10 years, that's an average of 278 billion dollars a year during a time where, in 2019, the government spent 4.4 trillion dollars of its 21 trillion dollar gdp.

We also have a 27 trillion dollar national debt, which means this tax increase is only enough to cover 1 100th of it per year. They're sure you could certainly argue that the us owes a lot of that debt to itself it's about on par with what the gdp is, and it makes sense to keep that debt when interest rates are so low and inflation will eventually make that worth less. But the fact remains that there is so much spending that even a tax increase barely makes a noticeable difference so from here on out, it really becomes a delicate balance of how much do we want to reinvest back into our economy? How much do we want to tax our workers and how much do we want to incentivize new business, but instead we have to face the reality that not everyone is going to comply. Certain investments will be favored over others, and the wealthy will probably still be wealthy.

So, taking all of that into consideration here are my thoughts. Increasing the corporate tax rate is going to encourage businesses to reduce their taxable profits through either inefficient spending or reinvestment back into the company, which i got ta say, is probably a mixed bag of results. On the one hand, larger companies would have the resources to potentially move offshore or restructure their income in such a way to avoid the tax. But, on the other hand, this might encourage more innovation and growth, because companies would rather reinvest back into the business than have to spend the money back on taxes, so i got ta say this one could end up going either way.

Second, i'm not really sure why this is such a shock to the markets. This plan was announced back in november and it's been discussed extensively throughout every single news network six months ago. So none of this should come as a surprise at all. So, unless the stock market just entirely forgot, this is going to happen.
I thought the sell-off was a major overreaction. The third i could be wrong, but i feel like this is more of a negotiation tactic, and the likelihood of this passing, as is, is relatively slim. This is probably more of an opportunity to start high and then settle somewhere in between, but who knows like, i said i could be wrong and i don't know what i'm talking about the fourth speaking of the tax increases. What a lot of people forget is that the tax cuts and jobs act in 2017, which lowered the tax rate to begin with, is already set to expire by 2026., so by changing and increasing the tax rate back a few years earlier.

It's not that big of a change in the big picture. The biggest change from all of this would be. The increase in capital gains tax for people making over a million dollars a year, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me to begin with, when capital gains is taxed at a higher rate than earned income instead, i would much rather see a progressive capital gains. Tax rate, in terms of how long you've held your investment for maybe perhaps now it'll take three to five years to realize that lowest capital gains tax rate instead of the one year like it is today that way, long-term growth can stay intact, but short-term positions will Be taxed slightly higher or perhaps there could be a compromise to a 28 long-term capital gains tax rate.

I have a feeling that something like that will be more of a reality, but again we'll wait and see. But overall, like i said, i do believe that reinvesting back into our economy is a good thing. I think there's absolutely programs and services out there that are deserving and more funds and what we do now is going to have a positive impact in the future. But i would expect that what we're seeing from this proposal is probably not going to be.

The final thing that's actually passed, even though i think that long term, it's inevitable, the tax rates are probably going to be going up for everybody. I hope this clears up. Some confusion for anyone wanting the real numbers behind this and then from there. You could make the decision for yourself as to whether or not this is too high or too low.

Let me know your thoughts on this. In the comments i read pretty much every comment. That's posted, so chances are. If you go and write something, i will take it into consideration as of now.

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28 thoughts on “My response to paying higher taxes | joe biden tax explained”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Luke Combz says:

    I don’t know about Trading and it’s strategies, how do I get In touch with the right broker?

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Alma Mater says:

    The rich would do anything, but let normies have free health care and education

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mak Daddy says:

    I'm going to raise taxes on working class people and small businesses. Then I will join the rest of the world to impose a global tax so we have more money to throw away….."joey Biden"

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Schokoladenkeks says:

    Imagine thinking we should put the stock market above infrastructure families in need

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars The Golden Jackel says:

    It is totally political, democrats manipulate for the votes they get. But the poor still get poorer.
    Aristotle defined democracy as the government by the poor. Which is what these obscene taxes.
    These taxes aren't about to happen but the loan tech is very useful and probably better then selling.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Edward Morley says:

    The reason infrastructure in the US is failing, isn't because they haven't been taxing enough, it's because they have been misspending.

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Blah Blah Blah says:

    Joe Biden: Let's tax investments at the same rate as income!

    Multimillionaire (Graham): No no, this is very bad for long-term investment

    Typical wealthy talk IMO. Socialism for the rich, capitalism for the rest of us, huh Graham?

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars william skrainski says:

    Gasoline is up 50%……..but nobody making under $400k will be affected by the new administrations policies…..

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Vegan Conservative says:

    Pays to look at the fine print of all these wonderfully titled but hideously expensive federal ideas paid for by you and me. Case in point: Biden's infrastructure plan. Not much of the money is tagged for actually improving vital infrastructure. (color me surprised. -_-)

    Also, corporations do not pay taxes. Ever. They get you and I to pay them or leave for better pastures.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Law19157 says:

    Biden can stick it where the sun don't shine, he's party stole the election & that's why Trump will be back. Till then I'm going to pull a Bill Gates and open my own Foundation to bring down by tax burden. To hell with income taxes.

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Betelgeuser says:

    So is he saying there is gonna be a huge dip for us little guys that dont reach the threshold?

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Grave Stoner says:

    You mean my government wants you to pay for me to get a better way of life and help enable me and people like me to become successful ourselves? Okay thanks

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Benjamin Owens says:

    Wouldn’t it just be nice if we let industry thrive and quit trying to tax the heck out of our sources of income?

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Scooter Tooter says:

    "I don't get political, I just look at the facts objectively." That pretty much tells us where you are politically…This entire LEFTIST scheme has one goal: Punish and dissuade productivity and innovation, and grow the number of people in the population who are dependent on Government aid. The LEFT dreams of a welfare state where they control EVERYTHING.

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Diadlo says:

    Rich people : ''We won't be able to employ as many employees!''
    Most rich people (Like Graham) : Doesn't actually hire anyone

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Josh Smyth says:

    ok, so expatriation tax of 85%, outlaw stock buy backs or tax that transaction at say 85%. all of this is just fear mongering to help protect those that have too much. its almost as bad as the good guy with a gun excuse. we should have speed limits cause some people will break them anyway. at least this is a change, when companies like activision and amazon can pay zero tax and get refunds, there is something deeply wrong with the tax code. Too many lobbyists and too many politicians on the take.

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars -Hotg-Odin says:

    this will just cause more people to get paid less because their employers have to pay more.
    15$ min wage has caused the price of everything to steadily go up while they blame it on covid meanwhile they print trillions to make the changes of prices look legit
    Your 15 min wage wont mean anything when you have to pay double for daily expenses

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Anthony Enos says:

    It's a regressive tax on the poor.Joe Biden dosent give a dam about the working class.Its endentured servitude that's what socialist do.Make you property of the state.Its all a Demonic Ponzi scheme to destroy you.

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Gage Goodell says:

    Did anyone else catch that he said "what's up Graham it's guys here*

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Stijn Haex says:

    with investing you take a higher risk compared to a regular job, but the effort/work you need to do is minimal for any upside. you can't only look at the risk taken and say you deserve a lower rate.

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Stijn Haex says:

    if you buy into a start up, or part take in an IPO or something like that, i agree you are investing. but you should not equate buying stocks with investing. just becoming an owner of a business is not investing in my book.

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Matthew Taylor says:

    So my taxes go up but the money is spent on caring for kids, roads, water and educating Americans. Sound like the very thing my taxes should’ve been spent on all along. I’m fine with this, my question is why wasn’t this being done before?

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Galacticfox777 says:

    Good job everyone who voted for biden because Orange man bad. Good job ( sarcasm )

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Chris Hoskins says:

    Anyone making 1+ million should get heavily taxed even more than the proposal. You have more to spare after all your expenses so it’s fair

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ProbablyAFK says:

    This video is just a bunch of FUD. The benefits are larger than the short term losses for the big boys. Investors are STILL GOING TO INVEST

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Peter Chuzie says:

    Can you provide some of sources you use for your research, I would like to read more? This is super interesting and in-depth analysis.

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars yackawaytube says:

    $2T over 10 years for infrastructure investment is $200B a year, not really that much money. By comparison, Iraq War costs $4T or corporate COVID19 bailout costs $4T; what did we gain there?

    However, raising taxes to pay for that is bad. How come no taxes was needed to be raised to pay for Iraq War or corporate COVID19 bailout?

  28. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Tony says:

    What most people neglect to mention is that when these rich people sell off their assets, they will be losing another stream of income. It’s inevitable that most will reinvest in the asset again once they realize they still can make money from it.

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