They are lying to you about Evergrande.
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So i think china right now is on the brink of a massive storm and i don't think they have a choice. They're, absolutely in a double-edged sword situation they're damned if they do they damn if they don't and it's coming out of left field. Nobody saw this coming so what i'm referring to, of course, is the ever grand crisis. Now, if you read or listen to mainstream media about the ever grand crisis well, this is basically a ninth grade level.

I mean it's very easy to understand: it's regurgitated, it's shallow. They absolutely don't want to do any actual analysis or work in mainstream media, but why would they they have all these free views? I, on the other hand, i actually want to show you behind the scenes inside the engine what's really going on and why i think the storm i was referring to has already begun. Now, here's the story, evergreen in case you haven't heard about it. It's a chinese company engaged in a lot of different things, among others, real estate development and so far, they've accumulated 300 billion and change of debt, which they seem not be able to actually service.

Basically, in other words, they're screwed, they have a lot of debt. They can't seem to repay it, and now they have basically two choices. One is to go belly up and say: hey or the other go to the government say hey help us, because i mean it's your problem. You know this joke about a guy who owes one million dollars to the bank.

Well, that's his problem, but if that guy owes 100 million to the bank, it's the bank's problem. So this is what i think the evergrand people are basically banking on. Basically, the chinese government saying well, we have to bail you out, but that whole story you already heard on mainstream media in this video. I want to go deeper and i want to show you why i think the company has already started liquidating and nobody's telling you jack about it.

So here's the story just a few minutes ago - and this is what triggered this video i actually opened up reuters and i saw that they have an article, a brief article, a couple of lines just saying: hey a few minutes ago, we found out that evergrand has Started to offer this plan, if you're in their wealth management products - and they owe you money - they offering people to take apartments, car parks office space, basically giving away real estate to people they owe money to, instead of giving them cash, which is by definition, the definition Of liquidation, so reuters just reported about this just a few minutes ago. So there's no denial, not no confirmation from this company, but it seems that reuters kind of did their homework and they found a lot of documents that pointing out to this now check this out. The problem with this situation is as follows: now, if you're dealing with the liquidation type of event, it has a lot of repercussions about the market, we're talking about a company with 300 billion in debt and a lot of trickle-down effects. So, what's going to happen right now, this company is coming up to their pretty much investors and whoever they owe money to and basically saying well here's this real estate which we can't sell.
Otherwise we wouldn't be in this situation. Obviously we can't move this real estate, so would you take this real estate instead of the money? We owe you so obviously, if you were in the shoes of somebody who was owed money from evergrand, you wouldn't take it so easily. I mean, would you take a piece of real estate? Nobody wants to buy. Well, you would, but you would require a serious discount to accept that as a payment, which is exactly what's going to happen.

According to what i read in reuters, it seems to be right now at about the 25, maybe even a little bit more of a discount which they're offering all these assets to these potential people right, and i think the price will keep coming down so people at Some point will actually take real estate if the discount is big enough. They'll take real estate. So, what's going to happen, you have eight billion dollars give or take maybe between six and eight billion dollars of money. They owe to wealth management programs, which is written investors.

Regular joes, like you and me who they owe money to so right now. This plan seems to be going just towards these wealth management clients. So we're talking about six to eight billion dollars of real estate being flooded into the market by evergrand at basically basement bottom prices. Everything is in a huge discount, so they're flooding right now.

The market, with all of this cheap, real estate at floor prices, which is obviously going to crash even more they battle real estate market in china, flooding the market, which already isn't a deep situation with all of these apartments office buildings. Car parks at a massive discount is going to absolutely crush the chinese economy. They can't let it happen. So here is the kicker here's the interesting question, so the chinese government cannot allow this to happen.

What will they do? Is this not proof that the chinese government will bail these guys out, not necessarily because here's the interesting story about the chinese government, they have a political problem. Let's put it this way if they bail out these rich bankers, like the americans did with you, know the american bank system in 2008, they're no better than the americans. Now also, you have to understand in china the whole narrative of the rich against the poor and financial fraud. The government basically is thai.

They can't bail them out without basically looking like a bunch of hypocrites in front of the people they're trying to convince of this equilibrium, egalitarian society they're trying to create it's going to be a counterproductive act. So the government is dying to bail them out, but they can obviously they can't have also this real estate market actually go crashing down. So what will they do? I think what we're about to see in china right now is a very kind of a hybrid situation. So the government will not officially announce a bailout, they cannot politically, but what they'll do - and this is just my theory again - my opinion might be wrong - might be inaccurate - might be the ramblings of mad men, doing research, i'm just speculating so what i think the chinese Government might do here.
Is this hybrid well, they're gon na divide the debt into two sectors? One sector is gon na, be the foreign debt one sector is gon na, be the local debt. Now the local debt they're not gon na bail out everground, but i think they're going to put a lot of heat on the banks on the chinese banks. To basically give extensions, essentially cause every grant to be able to repay this by improving the payment terms. Delaying the payment terms, basically even repaying the loans through these banks directly, so that every grant doesn't have to they're going to do a lot of gymnastics to cause these banks.

Not to say that ever grant is defaulting on these loans. Again, just speculating, and they can do it with a lot of different indirect kind of products. However, they have literally no incentive to do this. For the foreign banks uh one.

It's going to come out and everybody's going to know about it, which is going to blow the lid of this whole theory, but number two. Why would they i mean they've, been very adamant about screwing the foreign investors in china? So what i think they're gon na do is gon na indirectly bail out the chinese money by basically going directly to the banks and the lenders and whatnot and talking to them and making it basically go away and they're going to stiff all the westerners. Everybody who's. Not chinese are going to get stuffed by evergrand and it is what it is, but again i'm just kind of speculating.

Maybe they repay everything, maybe they don't. I don't know, but if china doesn't do anything about it, they just let every grant start flooding the market. With this all this real estate, they have at the massive discount it's going to crush the chinese economy, and then it's not about trickle-down effects. You know people losing jobs and whatnot.

This is going to be a massive dub of real estate. So i think the next week is going to be very interesting because we have a very interesting mexican standoff here. I think evergrand is basically saying they'll start repaying with real estate. Is a signal to the government? Well, if you're not going to bail us out we're going to screw you - and i think it's really interesting to see what the reactions of government will be.

It's very touch and go this week is actually where a lot of these coupons come up. So it's going to be very interesting to see what happens. Let me know in the comments below, if you agree with me, if you disagree with me, if you think i have no idea what i'm talking about, let me know below and i'll see you tomorrow.

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36 thoughts on “They are lying to you about evergrande”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars The136th says:

    You don't know what you are talking about, the CCP's goal is to crash the RE market so that housing get cheap. I'll let you guess why.

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars loopludotcom says:

    How much $ does Evergrande owe to US companies? What effect will this have on US markets ?

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars eduardo quirino says:

    THE COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT WILL ARREST AND SENTENCE THESE PERVERTED BUSIESSMEN TO DEATH.

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars tizmon says:

    Anyone who say evdrgrande is in real estate doesnโ€™t know the first thing about the problem. They are dealing land usage rights that will expire in 70 years. All the risk of real estate transactions without actual ownership. This is not a democracy. The owners of these failed mega corporations just get killed or sent to jail if they fail and they fail whenever communist party feels like. There are many cases of these already. The lenders must only suck it up. They have no choice.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Cor R says:

    You should really cite your source with the article in the comments. Please. Good video, but please cite sources.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Robert Haavind says:

    You are wrong The CCP is buying food on the open market to feed the china after the domestic crops were destroyed for two years in a row the CCP can not feed a billion+ people and bail out Evergrande at the same time. So they are going take all the employees of the company and put them is prison or kill them then take all their stuff and sell it pay off the domestic debit get as many of the condos completed as possible to keep the local riots to a minimum. They will do high profile executions for show but you are right the foreign are out of luck

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Dwight st. john says:

    I did high-rise concrete in Vancouver, BC for twenty years. See those unfinished high rises??? You're only 25 percent done, not half or three quarters. Now the expensive stuff happens: windows, plumbing, electrical, elevator, fire safety, security, and tech. My guess is the "value" on the books is crap.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Henry Hargraves says:

    Send evergrande to the squid games to pay off their debt .

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Tiger Bear says:

    I didnโ€™t know the govโ€™t in China cared about looking like hypocrites

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars subliminal1284 says:

    If they bail out the Chinese side and not the foreign side they will still face economic trouble, it will cause foreign investors to stop investing in China which will be a huge problem on its own. They have no easy way out

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Cool Mark says:

    Good grief your clueless. Getting your resources from western MSM on China is completely futile!

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars WideView says:

    If this has a big effect on other nations, China will require more regulation in trade and financeโ€‹ going forward.

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars peter miller says:

    interesting comments from you
    some I agree with
    some I don't
    there are so many different factors affecting china
    a lot from within
    a lot externally
    china is doomed unfortunately

    china, all of china has been living on a giant ponzi scheme

    the end is occurring right NOW!

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars private confidential says:

    so what if evergrande do not pay anybody anything , china police already activiated , nobody can ask for any payments from evergrande anymore.

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars darter9000 says:

    Calling it a sale would be generousโ€”theyโ€™re offering to transfer a lease.

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Carlos Gutierrez says:

    China saved Evergrande, made a deal with Chinese bonus holders and now they are fragmenting the company to pay off debts … where is the huge crisis that was going to end China?…..๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ fucking liars…….

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars 1hunterblack says:

    They did sale the real estate they took deposits on them. The got to over leverage.

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars dirty69impala says:

    Somebodyโ€™s gonna get smoked to make an example not do this crap again. China has a history.

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Kenneth A. Grimm says:

    The first lenders to bite have to take a big loss on their loans, even though they get real estate at a discount. The next lenders who jump in get only pennies on the dollar. Any lender who waits, hoping for a better deal, will find they have bonds or stock in a company with zero assets. Tough luck.

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Robert Arnold says:

    Evergrande could not sell their Hong Kong head quarters!!!!

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rick Baldwin says:

    Nash says hash,the CCP is Evergrande and they will bail them out publicly,
    maybe a few managers and officers will be growing vegetables in the north for the rest
    of their lives or really disappear.

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars onceANexile says:

    And now, all their friends are doing the same and pocketing the payments….simple.

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars axeltech 99 says:

    They liquidated their assets through hongkong and they took the money out from China . They got a finance license from ccp even if they have financial issues, so itโ€™s their mistakes as well .

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ernest Khalimov says:

    The pseudo crisis is over.
    Westoid media slowed down it's reporting
    China marches on

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Armando Montillero says:

    Chinese government will not do any kind of bail out because unlike USA government they don't work for the rich and the corporations. My guess is evergrande will go down in flames.

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars John Merlino says:

    This video really is showing how this Evergrande crisis is just starting. See YouTube video – "Will the debt destroy China's housing market? The market cools down and the engine is almost dead – YouTube

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Eyman Baird says:

    Who didn't know building ghost-towns for 10 years wasn't a profitable business? Evergrande, Fantasia, Luckin Coffee? It's a repeating theme…much?

  28. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars frederick clause says:

    Evergrande and most Chinese real estate companies are basically just running fancy pyramid schemes.

  29. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars steamhard says:

    What is your tank on the ship building in China? There are 3-4 companies going under n

  30. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars David Webb says:

    Most construction companies own very little of the buildings/projects. For residential, they sell the units as pre-constructions. For commercial, they often have tenants lined up long before completion. Even if Evergrande fails, there won't be properties flooding the market, at least not from their construction projects.

  31. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Lance Lessard says:

    Real estate in China is not like in the West. The government owns everything and property "owners" actually get an extended lease and don't really own the property like one does in other parts of the world. It's not something that can be left to future generations in an estate. It's just a place to park money for a while, and live there for a number of decades, but ultimately nobody owns property there but the government.

  32. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Marco Polo says:

    You missed important point which is win situation for China export. Cheap real estate means cheaper exports from china.
    Chinese companies will buyout the space for cash for their offices and factories.

    1. These will create even cheaper export's from china as the future overhead expense will significantly decrease.
    2. manufacturing unemployment will also be cheaper as many middle class investors are out of luck.
    3. The discounts given are accounted from % that china will NOT be paying back to foreign investors. Therefore their domestic cash balance will be un-effected.

    China is much smarter for them not to figure this formula out. ๐Ÿ™‚

    They know they dont have to pay back, as boycotting china exports is much more expensive proposition.

  33. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars michael 02/28/1980 says:

    8 minutes of jibber jab to get 2 minutes of information get on with the story

  34. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Manuel Izturriaga says:

    How would this affect the US Real Estate market with all these supposed foreign buyers (including China) scooping up properties and in a way also raising prices here?

  35. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars mustLoveDogs says:

    Yep – I thought that o/s bank loans would NOT be paid…

  36. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Clive Dinosaur says:

    The issue is not that people are being offered real estate that no one wants (instead of cash)….people in China do want real estate and may accept a completed apartment readty for occupation, but all Evergrande have to offer are half-finished structures that have been dormant for months or years.

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