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Now we need to do a deep dive into the auto loan crisis that's taking over the world. And it is Not good When you've got subprime defaults that are now at a higher level than pre-pandemic You've got a massive crisis afoot, and this crisis could actually be giving you a heads up of what's happening with unemployment. There's a massive leading indicator that we're going to talk about in this video. Keep in mind, this video is brought to you by my programs on building your wealth.

Link down below coupon code that expires next a week for St Patty's a week and I Hope you enjoy that you get lifetime access and a price guarantee that there's won't be possible to get a cheaper price in the future. All right. So the first thing that we have to do is we have to understand what's actually going on in the Autos sector. So first we know that, uh, payments for vehicles have absolutely skyrocketed thanks to growing interest rates.

But it's not just that it's USA Today is reporting that auto loan delinquencies have surged all throughout 20 22 now, leading to a higher number of borrowers defaulting other loads. Over 90 percent of cars are bought with financing, making cars a very important aspect of a consumer's finances. Ninety percent of cars are bought with financing, and all of a sudden delinquencies of subprime were skyrocketing. Then you know you've got a problem building now.

Card debt has been accumulating and the situation is getting worse at the same time as average selling prices for vehicles are actually falling Now, Some are arguing that wait a minute, our price is actually falling as there are some measures that say prices are going up Well, this is actually where things look even uglier. Take a look at this post from the car dealership guy, he says so the Mon: the Mannheim Used Vehicle Index, which shows an increase in used car prices actually tracks auctions. It doesn't track what people are are actually paying. What that means is that car dealers are paying more for cars a lot more.

But the issue is dealers are running into selling these cars for lower prices. They can't get them sold, so in other words, you're buying High selling low JD Power One of the industry's main sources of vehicle book values argues that Auto Lenders rely uh, or or rather JD Power is something that Auto Lenders rely on for vehicle collateral value. Have not made any material adjustments to the upside on car valuations. So what's happening basically is car dealers are paying more money, but they're making less money on these valuations.

and car dealership guy here says this has left dealers high and dry without a profitable outlet for all the inventory they just acquired over Book value. That's leading a lot of dealers selling cars to Consumers at a front-end law loss. Now a lot of people talk about wait, what's you know? Why would a dealer sell a car for a loss? Well here's why you sell a car for a loss and then you hope to make it up in the back end in that financing office. If you've ever bought a car that's not a Tesla you know how annoying it is that they sit you down in that financing office and they try to sell, sell sell sell sell you.
They make it seem like you have to sit through the presentation because it's legally required. but it's just complete. BS They're just trying to make more money off of you. That's the way the car dealership model works.

But anyway, speaking for myself, the car dealership guy here says our vehicle purchase price has risen slightly risen, but our average selling price is barely budged. So yes, the uh, the the data that we're seeing is accurate That in some measures, prices are going up, but valuations are either flat or going down. and so this is leading to pain. Because think about it as subprime defaults are occurring and used car prices are not actually going up.

If anything, they might be trending down. Individuals who have a lot of subprime Auto debt are likely facing defaults and repossessions. In fact, the repossession crisis that started mid last year is only getting worse. not better.

Liberty Street Economics Good. Lord Highlights that young borrowers are struggling the most with credit card and auto loan payments. A subprime loan is any loan made to a borrower with a credit score of under 660. And delinquencies in the subprime loan sector often lead to increases in unemployment According to what? What charts by Morgan Stanley What? We actually happen to have exactly those charts.

Take a look at this piece right here. So this piece from Morgan Stanley says implications of a recent of the recent events on auto credit. Autos and Consumer Credit are fundamentally intertwined. Over 90 percent of Autos are bought by a financial instrument.

Our bank teams noted that even before the events of last week, we expected net interest margins to Peak at a lower level than the prior cycle and move down in Q2 2023. More deposit competition, longer term wholesale funding, and less duration risk slash more liquidity risk means that margins will be lower for banks. That means tighter lending. Okay, tighter lending means even less loan availability for people in the subprime mortgage or subprime.

Auto Lending Market See it says here. this won't be helpful for Lending Attitude Now it's too soon to tell what the impact will be on demand and we should watch showroom traffic. But it's worth noting. Bank Auto lending standards have already been tightening for three months.

Outside of a Sharp pull vaccine into to 2020, They are at the tightest levels since the survey began back in 2011.. Now, tight lending is actually very recessionary. When you restrict borrowing, you limit GDP That can cause a recession. That's the point.

And that's why people like Uh Jane Smith An economist who was interviewed by Uh by The Wall Street Journal says the auto loan crisis is a ticking Time Bomb If we don't address it now, it will have severe consequences on the economy and the lives of everyday individuals. Another financial analyst argues the fact that so many people owe Mower on their car than it's worth is extremely troubling. We're looking at a massive financial crisis if this trend continues, So let's also keep going with sort of this report right here. This report goes on to say that the subprime auto delinquencies are still above pre-covered levels.
Sub Prime delinquencies are at 5.2 percent higher than pre-covered levels, whereas Prime delinquencies are below 0.42 percent. The difference here folks is a S Let me see 661 credit score So you are a prime borrower in cars. Uh, with uh with above a 661 credit score. Thank you for shouting out my oil call Limitless Here says Kevin props on the oil short call.

Thank you. A potential further pullback coincides coincides with all-time high monthly auto payments Rising interest rates and substantial recovery and auto supply. This means it's bad to invest in vehicle companies because tighter lending standards and a recovery and Supply with Rising interest rates makes it really hard to see how companies like Ford and GM could make money. Now that might be different for a company like Tesla because it's still so new it's a baby going through the cycle.

If Tesla were much more mature through this cycle, it would have the same problems. Uh, let's see here. then we have what we have here: Tightening Auto standards. Yeah, look at that.

Look at that. We are at the tightest levels of Auto standards that we've seen since 2011. Yikes. Uh, that's definitely a compressive uh for uh, for a recession.

But also, look at this. This chart right here is really interesting because it reminds you to get Life Insurance within as little as five minutes. Linked by down below by going to Metcaven.com life or getting 12 free stocks with Weeble by going to Metcaven.com Weeble that's the stock app that I like to use on a daily basis, but this chart actually says that year over year changes in unemployment versus year over year. Uh, delinquencies.

So basically what they're doing is they're taking the yellow line and they're taking delinquency rates and they're comparing it to the unemployment rate the blue line. So look how weird this is. Watch this. Auto Delinquencies in the subprime market Spike Before unemployment spikes by about.

Let's see here that's February and that's about August of, uh, the next year. So about 18 months. so you have about an 18 month delay and when you get a peek in Auto delinquencies on subprime to when you have Peak unemployment, look at where we sit now, slowly trending up. It's even too too early to tell if we've hit a creek on those subprimes, but It's a sign that there is a correlation between unemployment and auto loan delinquencies.
which, uh, you know, it's interesting that one lags the other so much. you would almost think it's the other way around that you lose your job and then you go delinquent. but it's actually Financial stress first that seems to then get compounded by job loss later. Anyway, Uh, obviously.

uh, we. uh, you know we're at an environment where, uh, it makes sense to potentially stay away from financing. We already know that, but this was an interesting one because what if rates go down right? Because there's this idea that, well, what if the FED just cuts rates, will everything be fine again? Well, Cox Automotive actually did a piece on this and they stated that changes in the FED funds rate don't have a direct and immediate impact on the auto loan rates. Instead, they do influence the general direction of uh, where auto loans are going to go.

But the FED cutting does not necessarily mean we're going to see instant drops in car loans at dealerships. They could mean more profits for dealers in the short term as spreads widen. Uh, they could mean uh, they could be offset by tighter lending standards. Who knows.

But the point out of all of this is to say hey, the auto loan crisis is worsening. There's a reason why you have subprimes that are becoming very diff difficult to sell as bundles. Remember how that works? By the way, a company that does a bunch of subprime loan like let's let loans. Let's say you do about like 10 000 subprime model loans.

A company that, like, like that, will end up wanting to sell their subprime mortgage portfolio, right? Look at this title right here on: Google Santander Halts 942 million dollar auto subprime auto loan sale amid Market turmoil. Yeah, because obviously who wants to buy subprime loans when we're walking into an environment that's potentially defaulting. So you've got yourself a disaster. And there's a big reason why you're seeing car repossessions explode.

Car repossession companies are probably the biggest. uh, they've been. NBC News Covered this pretty thoroughly in December Car repossessions are on the rise as an awarding sign for the economy. Yeah, look at that.

Now we're getting bank failures Auto Repossessions tumbled after the pandemic. but now they're yeah, because of all the payment forgivenesses. Now they're approaching pre-pandemic levels with some worrying that we're basically going to far exceed pre-pandemic levels. Anyway, you could sort of explore that that article, uh, yourself.

But bottom line: the Auto Loan Crisis is a disaster. And as Morgan Stanley puts it, could be pushing us towards that could good old recession. Whether it's tighter lending standards, more defaults, or unemployment, it's a disaster.

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26 thoughts on “The car bubble is bursting – bad massive warning sign.”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars GameOverPretzel says:

    Lol all of a sudden my truck value jumped up $1500
    What 😂

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars J-Mac says:

    your an idiot. please no one listen to this man. he clearly blamed everyone for a mistake he mad. He clearly said he did no do diligence and did not look anything up for financial advice. please do not listen to him. he does not care if you lose your money. He will say its your fault for listening to him and not lookin up this information. I thought that was his job. Please be careful everyone. he doesnt care about his viewers just the money. hope they sue him.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars M L says:

    COFFEEZILLA EXPOSED YOU FOR BEING INCOMPETENT

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars David says:

    That is true few years back my dad seen a car he liked in an ad and we went all the way down there to buy it cash but they said they can't sell it for that price cash that's the price if you finance and we said we do not want to finance and he said will finance it for a month or two then pay it off but my dad did not want anything to do with that and left

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars costafilh0 says:

    I'm happy AND sad to see that Hyundai Galloper in the thumbnail! Memories 🥲

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Personal Finance says:

    Ok Kevin, I love the videos but which is it, sponsored ONLY by your courses or you will take external sponsors too hasn't even been 6 months?? (WeBull, seems like an external sponsor)

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars A R says:

    A dealership is charged back for early loan payoffs and repos btw.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Western Artifact says:

    I can empathize with a house, but anyone that chooses to buy a basic commutor car over 30k deserves the fall-out. Yes cars are overpriced, but these folks did zero shopping or research.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jose Joven says:

    Never buy auto from dealerships with their in house financing.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Midwest Chris says:

    I almost feel bad for dealers but let us not forget all the gouging that happened. Also most car dealers are actually just finance companies that happened to deal in cars so they make money on people who finance which is 90% of people so they'll be okay

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Random Car Stuff says:

    This is not a bubble! it looks just like Brazil … You got the money, you drive …

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Glass Dome says:

    The car industry and new and second hand markets are in a giant overinflated bubble about to pop with a bang. What this means for Tesla though I don’t know – will they be the only car company to grow and retain their pricing power? the PP Kevin loves so much? Or will they see a dramatic drop as there is excess supply of every car? I can’t see it being a good outlook for their stock price as either demand, or margin, or both will suffer… what do you think?

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Welco says:

    The car market collapse will be spectacular. Homeless drug addicts will be murdering dealers

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Timothy Gibney says:

    Well if greedy Stealerships would stop charging 5 year old cars with half it's mileage used for 90% of new then people would buy again

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Tyler Powell says:

    That chart on unemployment vs delinquencies ends in 2012 by the looks of it

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Willis Zimmerman says:

    Ya never understood why people could afford 600+ dollar car payments all of a sudden without any increases in real wages earned, mind blown

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars UltraRex030609 says:

    Love how you brag on your "deep dive" into companies and finding all the stuff thier hiding behind the scenes. Yet you KEPT ACCEPTING FTX funds to promote the company. Weather you admit it or not YOU KEVIN PATHRAFT KNEW FTX WAS SHADY. Again weather or not you decide to ACTUALLY BE TRANSPARENT with your followers (as you state you do) you knew. Bite the bullet and admit your wrongdoings, or you are not as great as a "deep diver" as you say, and shouldn't be selling courses on Company Financial Information.
    So to your followers Kevin…. what will it be. Your stuck between a rock and a hard spot I'll be the first to admit. But this very moment is where you either gain your Viewers Respect, OR LOOSE IT. Choose wisely and like this comment if you agree. Only time will tell.

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Nicholas Curry says:

    I literally had no choice to drop 5.5k to get a new car the end of 2022 because my car got stolen multiple times(Kia). I always paid more then the note since I financed the car because I wanted it paid off sooner. Long story short car was totaled out with a loan on it because they completely stripped my exhaust system(both catalytic converter/intake manifold and it would cost more then the vehicle was worth. I fortunately was in a good position because I always paid more every month and was able to get the loan paid off and receive remainder of the value of the vehicle from insurance…I learned a lesson from the first used car I bought at 19 year’s old…

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars John al'Thor says:

    The problem is, never underestimate the ability of Biden's quasi-Socialism to screw the system up. All normal predictions are potentially thwarted by Biden's unprecedented spending and bailouts.

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Restomize says:

    All this kind of stuff can be fixed easy pay people more so they can afford to own a car. when 60-65 percent of Americans are making 15 and less an hr it's not gonna go well for many many industries. the one guy making all the money or couple arnt gonna buy as many cars as well paid employees across the board would imo. But I'm an idiot so prob wrong.

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Isaac D says:

    Eventually this dudes claims of various markets crashing, will be right. Just has to keep saying it until it actually happens

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Alex F says:

    One mistake I've learned not to make is to finance a vehicle. When you finance a vehicle, you also end up paying twice as much for insurance. Bad idea. If you can't pay the vehicle off, don't buy it.

    I won't be losing any sleep over the fact that car dealerships are losing money. They are the scum of the earth.

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ray R says:

    I’m still waiting for the banks to fail. Why you changing the subject?

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Shop Talk Official Channel says:

    I haven't had a car loan for fifteen years. Never will again- so overpriced.

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars T F says:

    Kevin has not learned his lesson. He is still pitching companies ! Is the ad revenue worth the stress of being associated with these companies if something were to happen to them like FTX ?

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Kevin Taing says:

    California just pass a 20% CalFHA Loan. Would you advise to go for this?

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