SEC Chief Gary Gensler halts approvals of new Chinese IPOs
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Scc temporarily halts approvals of new chinese ipo. The sec is specifically concerned about chinese companies that are structured as so-called variable interest entities, although they're based in china, these companies are set up as an offshore shell company, often in a tax-friendly place like the cayman islands. My name is tom nash and i quit my corporate job as a senior financial analyst to break down companies for you there's one thing you need to know about me: i don't take from anybody hey. This is tom and we have some breaking news about chinese talk.

You absolutely got ta hear this is seismic cataclysmic level event that you absolutely do not want to miss now, for the past few weeks, i've been talking about chinese talk and i've basically been telling you hey. This is getting a little bit dicey, i'm not even talking about the fact that that made a dude disappear, a billionaire because they didn't like what he said in some interview. Not even talk about the fact that they cancelled the biggest planned ipo in asia, which was ant, i'm just talking about the stuff they just did this week now. The bottom line here is, as always in my videos comes first, the sec has essentially halted froze whatever you want to call it.

Stop all chinese ipos until further notice. This is a huge deal. Basically, the sec just said: hey. We want to figure out what the hell is going on here before we let any more chinese companies ipo in the us.

Now that's the bottom line, but i'm going to tell you the whole story and it's going to make. You fall off your seat. So don't click, nothing, don't smash, nothing don't buy. Nothing! Don't subscribe to nothing! No courses, no affiliate links, no sponsorships, just your attention.

So what the hell is going on here, so we're not even gon na go back to the point where they made a billionaire disappear. Take a little vacation for a couple of weeks because he said something they didn't like we're, not gon na go back to them. Canceling the ant ipo, which was the biggest ipo in asia ever essentially for no reason. We're not gon na talk about the fine on alibaba, none of that that's old news just compared to what they did last week.

That's just really old news. Just last week they canceled didi retroactively after the ipo costing people billions of dollars, but did he was just one victim here? There were other companies, tencent basically got shellacked and in case you think i'm bullshitting you. This is from july 24th. China orders tencent to give up exclusive music licensing rights as crackdown continues.

They just went after tencent, basically taking away actually nationalizing ip rights for music, now they're saying that tencent is providing opium for the masses. Stock goes down 10, just because some governmental agency put out government sponsored articles essentially sending the stock price 10 down, and that's just one example of the irrational, crazy, erratic behavior of the chinese regulators. This is insane and it's not even the end of the story. I told you in my last few videos that, even if you overcome the regulatory issues - and you might say well, the chinese government supports these types of companies.
It doesn't support these types of companies, so i'm going to invest in the companies they like yeah today. But what happens tomorrow, or in the year, you can't run an investment policy based on what the chinese government likes or doesn't like, but that's not even the end of it. Tencent basically was made to give back the royalty music. They have.

They cancelled education companies like a lot of crazy. You don't expect from a proper country with proper due procedure. Now this was insane. Essentially.

This was like looking at my kid throwing a tantrum throwing against the wall makes no sense. It doesn't even mean anything what the hell is going on so once we saw that that should have been enough for you. Now i've been beating the drum about chinese stocks for a while for months, and i've told you this isn't about china. This isn't about chinese people, nor about the chinese culture, which i absolutely love.

It's about the fact that, even if this thing was going on in greenland or finland or uzbekistan or russia, i don't told you the same thing: don't invest where the volatility is going crazy. It's just not a good investment risk management, wise, especially in an irrational place like china, where everything is not even economical. It's some weird ass, mind control game that they're playing against themselves. Now the things have changed now check this out.

This is a wall street journal article sec to set new disclosure requirements for chinese companies ipos. Now this is really important. The securities and exchange commission will increase scrutiny of chinese companies that aim to sell shares in the us following new chinese restrictions. Now this is really important.

This came out on july 30th. It's really important. This is a reaction to what's going on in china. Essentially, gary gensler basically saying well, i'm not going to let you go crazy if you're going to be behaving like that, we're going to limit you on the u.s side, a very nice reaction and as you can see right here, sec chairman gary genser said friday.

He has asked agency staff to seek specific disclosures from chinese firms before signing off on regulatory filings that precede initial public, offering basically he's saying: hey we're not going to let you go public unless we know what the hell is going on in china, you better get Your act together now this is really important, because this means a lot. The disclosure requirement outlined friday builds on guidance. The sec issued last year on risks associated with china-based companies. They focus on the structure, the vie, the variable interest entities - essentially that's the cayman island structure.
I've been talking to you about this is basically a confirmation to what i said that this structure is insanely dangerous. The whole idea in my last few videos was to explain to you that the legal structure of chinese companies being ipo'd in the us is just bananas. It makes no sense you as the shareholder own, a contractual right to a contractual right to contractual rights, to contractual right to a contractual right, 15 lines down more 15 contractual rights to the actual company that holds the assets. Now, in this situation, you literally have no property rights in the company.

You think you're holding shares of you're holding some phantom shares of nothing and you literally have no recourse if you get screwed, because the only company that owes anything to you is a kingman island company that, by the time that this thing hits the fan, it's gon Na be basically empty of anything, so you're gon na be holding your shenanigan with your hands, basically crying for the sky, which is very similar to what's going on right now and in case you've been wondering. This is what it looks like in real life. You, as the investor in the new york circuit change or the nasdaq, are getting shared in this company. This is a cayman islands company.

It owns another hong kong company, which owns another chinese company, which owns another chinese company, which owns another chinese company which actually owns the assets. You think you own, you don't own jack. You have contractual rights that go through five different companies until you get to the actual assets, you think your own and that's the entities which are often based in offshore jurisdictions such as ding ding, ding. They came in islands.

Allow us investors to get exposure to chinese companies through contracts. Now this is really important. Contractual rights are not the same as property rights any lawyer and by the way, if there's any lawyers watching this, please comment below and let people know that i know what i'm talking about. Contracts and property rights are completely different and should be priced differently.

And yet you have contractual rights being sold to people which are willing to pay the same price as if they're buying a property which they're not and gary genser understands this and kudos to him. He gets a lot of respect for me for getting this right. I worry that the average investor may not realize that they hold the stock in a shell company rather than a china-based operating company. Mr genser said in the statement: yes, finally, an sec chair that gets it and by the way the funny thing is all of this is listed in the prospectus.

There's an example here from the alibaba perspectives, where they literally come out and say: hey dear investors, if you invest with us, you should know that this thing might be canceled by the chinese government if they decide we're violating any existing or future laws and by the Way that itself is kind of insane. This is essentially a retroactive application of future laws on past behavior, which is insane only in china. I guess so. The chinese government have been going crazy.
Regulators have been going crazy, basically doing whatever the hell they want. Now, the sec, i will give you that they like to move slow, but now that they up from their seed they're about to go bananas on these guys for all china-based operating companies. Seeking to listen to us exchanges. The sec will require them to say whether they have received permission from the chinese authority to do so, as well as to disclose the risk that permission might be rescinded.

Mr genzer said: well, that's just the first move. I see this is way bigger than this. This is just the opening fire and, by the way, the case of dd, which they mentioned here is the perfect example. This is a rug poll you put in 4.4 billion of u.s investors money through the new york stock exchange in a chinese company.

Then china decides nomas two days after the ipo and basically everybody loses a big chunk of their money. That can happen again and again and again, and actually it can get worse, and i think gary genser is definitely doing the right thing. But i think this is just the beginning. Essentially the sec just came out and said: hey until we figure out what the hell is going on here: nobody's ipoing out of china in any u.s stock exchange.

This is a huge thing because it essentially says that these guys are guilty until proven innocent, which is exactly what i've been saying about. Chinese talk and obviously i'm not the only one who's thinking that kathy wood has just eliminated her entire chinese portfolio. For similar reasons, i would assume very dangerous, very risky, probably a good time to stay away from i mean now, we have this whole structure being attacked from both sides. The sec have now banned apos.

What will they do with existing companies? Obviously, they're not gon na be sitting saying well, i know we just banned all chinese companies from going public, but we're not gon na review. The existing structures come on think about it. Both of these countries are not going at these structures. Is that really a good time to get into chinese companies? Well, if you're a gambler, and you think that this is going to blow over, you might make a lot of money, but i don't invest based on gambling.

I invest based on risk management, and this risk is way too much for me. But again, i'm not a financial advisor, i'm just a guy on the internet. Sharing his opinion, which might be inaccurate, might be wrong, might be the ramblings of a madman. You have to do your own research, blabla, mother, effing blah.

Now i appreciate you joining me for this. I think this is only heating up. I think it's going to be a massive story to come. I've been saying this for months and every little thing that falls into place just proves that i was right now.
I know a lot of you still love your chinese talk and that's fine, i'm even going to be excited if you make some money, but for me i'm out.

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36 thoughts on “Sec chief gary gensler halts approvals of new chinese ipos”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Adnan Amjad says:

    I would be more concern about the valuation of some companies in US trading at 500+ PE.. how is that not a scam πŸ€” growth companies? Yes ya whatever.. u expect the growth to continue 2x 3x every year for the next 20 years? While already paying for that growth way in advance.. if not comfortable with Chinese companies on US exchange go with HK exchange.. the country which is technically 2nd largest economy with such valuation is a sure buy.. its not a gamble. If you really understand what China is doing is exactly the same thing which Europe did regarding the data protection.. they also want sustain growth that involves everyone not just business and investors. Making education free is not a bad thing.. maybe for investor it is but every country should have free education and shouldn't have such a huge difference between private schools and public schools.. to me buying US companies at this valuation is more of a gamble

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Chris Borns says:

    I sold out of my NIO and XPEG positions, and at a nice point thanks again Tom you saved me before on Lordstown too just before it crashed. You were the catalyst that had me reanalyze my thesis with a clean perspective, so thank you for your sevices.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Robin Bargo says:

    China is manipulating our market. Delist all Chinese stocks.

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Greg Helton says:

    Tom, most USA companies are β€œheadquartered β€œ in the likes of the Cayman Islands. How does that differ from Chinese companies?

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Garden Ching says:

    everything in that country has to be under the control of ccp

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars SnoopyDoo says:

    So what prevents these Chinese companies from opening a front company in the US and passing it off as an American company?

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Claire Kendrick says:

    Excellent video. Sold all Chinese stocks last year. So happy I did, they are all below what I sold for last year.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars You Heard Me says:

    People/Viewers laughed at Kerry over on Best With Us Investor when he announced on his channel that he was pulling out of Chinese stocks over a month ago, citing the same information that Tom just laid out here. They called him a dumb old man who didn't know what he was doing or talking about.
    Well, he's done very well for himself in life, and who is the dumb one now?
    No shade, Most people are investing to improve their lives and those of the ones they love.
    But these YouTube bros and gals know that handing out bad intel is bad for their YouTube business.
    Not saying to follow the sheep. But listen and do your own research
    There are thousands of great companies to invest in without the headache and whiplash of the Communist Chinese gov't. Stay safe. And happy investing.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars 凍ζͺΈζ–Œ lemonteaaa in Canada says:

    You people finally know why we hongkongers don't trust the CCP

    And that's exactly why i dont invest in nio when its just 9

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Yenn BM says:

    Hi tom apart from the CCP do you still like china

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Kristopher M says:

    Hey Tom, what do you think about Chinese A shares?

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Stephen says:

    Cathie Woods literally has crap performance with China stocks. Her historic performance shows she almost everytime buys the top and sell at the bottom. The fact shes selling now should tell you alot.

    If you have alot of concerns of owning BABA cause it's VIE structure, go buy the listing in HK.

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Eduardo Delgado says:

    Pozhaluysta (Russian) I would enjoy your channel so much more if you didn't use mother f all the time

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jomon Thomas says:

    Tom, i would really appreciate if you can control your language when giving out such valuable information.

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars iTuber012 says:

    What if you buy Alibaba shares from Hong Kong stock exchange instead?(9988)

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Miriam Strauss says:

    This is a lawyer, confirming that you know what you are talking about! Contract rights are different from property rights!

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Adam says:

    This structure is a literal flow of capital from the west to China, if you think they would want to stop that then I think you aren't thinking very deeply about it. Uncertainty =/= risk.

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars F D says:

    Finally, I’ve been saying this for years here and on seeking alpha. It feels so good to have someone with your platform saying these things. I’ve advised all my clients for many many years to not buy Chinese β€œstocks” and you won’t believe how many people after showing them the legal framework still don’t care because beep boop stocks go up logic

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Heng Loke says:

    People who are heavily invested in Chinese stocks need to understand that the US government's refreshed position, like it or not, is the new normal and is a direct result of a confluence of COVID and China's non-market based approaches in achieving advancement in various sectors. Case in point, the executive order requiring the review of security and stability of the US supply chain. This will especially impact the EV sector, which is considered a strategic sector that needs to be secured. Keep a wary eye on companies who relies on production of strategic sectors, such as EV batteries, medical technology, ICTs, based in China.

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mr Anthony says:

    A reason I exclude all companies from my portfolio from there.

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars KingLutherQ says:

    The SEC should just delist these Chinese companies.
    1. Lack of transparency.
    2. Chinese government can simply shut down any company for political reasons.
    3. It is not illegal in China for a Chinese company to copy US patented technology or cheat Americans in general.

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rui Marques says:

    Hi , might be a stupid question for you guys !! How do I buy the Hong Kong stock for BABA?

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars A Bou says:

    You would have to contract legal help each ladder rung from the bottom to get real results. Not worth it.

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Solyad says:

    Gensler is the only cabinet level appointee that seems to have a freakin clue what he is doing. The others are either
    radical, leftist lunatics or they are 100% incompetent and in way over their heads. Between this and his comments on
    transparency and dealing with the AMC situation, the SEC may actually get some things done unlike his counterparts
    over the past 25 years.

    100% correct on ARK, they have literally dumped every single Chinese stock they were holding.

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rhoel G says:

    At least this guy is decent enough to to talk about NIO stock for like almost everyday like other scammy youtubers

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars R!OT EARTH says:

    Buy on the HK market if you want Chinese companies. Or buy an ETF that has only HK holdings.

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Richard Gomez says:

    You need an A and a C on your shirt and will spell AMC

  28. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jose Dimas says:

    I’m just gonna leave this comment for the algorithm πŸ₯Έ

  29. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Sage Aces says:

    China is restricting freedom of investment; expect further similar acts from CCP in other areas of their society. When communist nations pull back / invward as China is doing, it is getting ready for war. China declared a economic war against U.S. [after launching their low level biologic attack via COVID]. Their efforts though significant, didn't accomplish their goal, implode the World's economic output. So, CCP is now moving onto the next step, preparing for physical war. All jmo. True to China way; anyone who knows Chinese culture [simiar to Philipino] if they can't scam you, they will physically try to take it.

  30. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Shasha May says:

    Contractual rights are only as good as the ability to enforce them. This is why I don't invest in China. I am a lawyer. However, just because a shell company full owns 100% of an operating company is fine. This happens all the time in the markets, and private corporations whereby there is a shell holding company that holds an operating company. But, if it is contracts, yes, its different.

  31. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Brad Needleman says:

    I am trying to avoid even buying Chinese products. Love the people, no use for the government.

  32. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Gautam says:

    If you and sec were so nice concerned about investors, why don't we have inquiry on price manipulation in spacs e.g orgn.
    Just fear mongering, shame on you.

  33. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Gautam says:

    I admire you not but this video is just meant for sensations, disappointed in you. baba is staying and thriving

  34. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Steve Rossiter says:

    Tom I really appreciate this video. I was planning on buying 100 of
    GOTU
    TAL
    EDU
    for the future. I’ll pass now

  35. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars S Jin says:

    I have to say you don't know what you are talking about. πŸ™‚ The regulation was all about anti monopoly and prevention of global economy crash like US did in 2008 where they did nothing to control the loan/credit. Look at the inflation and price increases(my house value just incased 100k in few month), it's more dangerous to invest in US companies than Chinese at the moment. also isn't it too late to regulate so called "shell" company since those companies such as BABA, TENCENT has been like that decades ago? I feel this is more of a political move target china than a good will to protect your money lol.

  36. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars JesseCapo says:

    you don't own jacksh*t!!! lmao Tom u da best homie ahahaha

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