Historical lens that we've put on politics and business. That's a weird. That's weird. Usually when you know companies complain about governments being anti-business it's things like, you know.

uh, the pushback in New York City that kept Amazon from building its headquarters here. I Mean it's it's on the other side of the spectrum. So I think the show is just like how toxic this has become. This is not about economics.

Uh, Governor DeSantis is willing to foist higher taxes onto his own constituents to prove a point and Disney is willing to pay higher taxes to keep control of its business and keep it out of the hands of a government. Yeah, but keep in mind Disney has just pulled a fast one on Ron DeSantis and the DeSantis camp that even though this is this fight between Ronnie D and Disney feels very politicized and political in nature. Ron DeSantis is now lashing out because he's calling for an investigation into quote last minute changes made by the outgoing Disney appointed board members. Basically what happened is Ron DeSantis was busy being political with his administration, making the argument that we're gonna fight, woke and we're gonna fight and punish Disney And then while he's making those public arguments, Disney at a public board meeting, voted to extend many rights to Disney's ability to basically self-govern for the next 30 Years 30 more years Disney just gave itself in a public board meeting to protect itself from Ron DeSantis Now mainstream media Outlets like The Financial Times and New York Times are jumping on the bandwagon suggesting Ron DeSantis is humiliated.

He is now on one hand trying to show how tough he is, but he's so tough that he got publicly juked and outplayed by Disney Now look, I'm a big fan for some healthy competition for Donald Trump but unfortunately Ronnie D Here, taking an L with Disney while trying to act tough will do the opposite for his campaign and actually just enhance Donald Trump's because people have the impression that Donald Trump isn't going to stop until he gets what he wants and this might be a dead end for Ron DeSantis So if I had any personal advice for Ron DeSantis it would be twofold. Number one: you gotta fix this Disney problem. Maybe come to a negotiated solution or something Now I'm going to explain the problem in just a moment. But another piece of advice: Create videos using Stream Yard.

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So check out our sponsor today, Metkevin.com stream yard or use the link down below. All of this led the CEO of Disney to call Ron DeSantis anti-business Let's get some reaction after listening to that clip from Ron DeSantis and let's get some reaction from some Talking Heads and then add our own commentary and it thwartz those efforts simply to retaliate for a position. The Company took sounds not just anti-business but it sounds anti-florida and I'll just leave it at that columnist and CNBC contributor Jim Stewart and Puck senior political correspondent Tara Palmeri great to have you both on and staying up late. We appreciate it.

Jim your take on this you literally wrote the book on Disney Where does this end? well? I'm not I'm not surprised this thing has flared up again, but it is at least so far. This is mostly a war of words and symbolism. Yes, DeSantis move to strip control of the local board, but in the great scheme of things I Think that could actually save Disney some money in in the long run, you know, much bigger. Stakes Here are the fact that Disney employs many, many thousands of people in the State of Florida and just in 2021 announced that it was moving another few thousand there, including the imagineers and Florida was giving them about 570 million in tax incentives.

Now, the status has not yet done anything about that, nor has Disney said well, we're not going to do it. that would be I guess kind of like you know Putin dropping a tactical nuclear bomb or something I mean at that point it would become something with real economic repercussions. you know Tara What this seems to be. Honestly, we're putting it as Disney versus DeSantis I Just have a feeling that Disney's lawyers appear to be a lot better than Florida's lawyers.

So yeah, I'd agree. I mean to me. Rhonda Santa seems extremely flat-footed. Um, this reminds me of the migrants that he shipped from Um Texas the border to Martha's Vineyard You know there was a headline grabbing stunt, a political stunt, but there was really no follow-through The fact that they didn't realize at the Reedy Creek board had even changed the rules back in February before he put his own board in, just showed that they weren't really doing their due diligence.

I Also think it's really interesting to see that um. Iger's language is much stronger than Bob Chaffix and you know he's calling the Santa's anti-florida He's really, you know, getting in it with him, that's a good I mean Tara that's a good I mean whatever you think that's a good line I mean whoever side you're on, that's a good line. Yeah, but I Also wonder if it Flex the fact that DeSantis is becoming weaker politically, the fact that he would become so aggressive, or if this is just Igor Style versus Chapex. But it just seems to me like he's ready to take this antis on head on.

And the tone has changed. and it also just happens to coincide with the fact that the Statuses poll numbers are slipping right now. The fact that he's had a lot of stumbles on the national stage. you know the fact that he's wobbling on Trump's indictment politically, he's suffering, and it's interesting to see him being attacked.

Um, not just politically, but also by you know, corporate Disney so we're gonna stop that one there. Worth thinking about that though for a moment. Really, there's this setup that potentially Ron DeSantis is weakening in the at the same time as Donald Trump is potentially strengthening. Here's that New York Times piece.

Just so you can see it, where a Disney basically responded to losing control of its board by the month before losing control, basically voting with the now lame duck board to restrict the power of the new board and give Disney several exclusive rights that could last as long as 30 or even more years in certain circumstances. So Disney really outplaying Ron DeSantis here and this now leading to a lot of folks wondering: Did Ron DeSantis just get embarrassed on a national stage? it is Ron DeSantis Somebody who was considered a potential front-runner as Donald Trump was kind of screaming in a corner in this 2024 a political election cycle did Rhonda Sand has now become the kids screaming in a quarter and banging his head against the wall as Donald Trump's uh, you know, indictment has made him potentially 10 times more of a news subject than he was beforehand. and now the only remaining sort of legacy of DeSantis is this mistake of of trying to appear tough against Disney yet actually getting outplayed by Disney I kind of think I think about it like the the person who, uh, who's winning the uh I'm sure you've seen these before. You know those marathon races where you get like the uh, the runner who's running and they're getting right to the end and they're like yeah, I won and then they.

They're so focused on how they're winning that they don't even realize their Challenger is running up right behind them and ends up passing them right at the last second, at which point it's too late for that person to respond anymore. That's kind of how I view this this DeSantis Disney dispute although he's been getting hit pretty hard hard in various different areas, not only the Disney issue he got hit for at first, kind of nearly kicking Trump while he was down by making fun of the hush money potentially to uh Stormy Daniels argument that he was making on top of that and this was when he was at a press conference and Ron DeSantis basically uh said ah, you know I wouldn't know anything about paying hush money to a porn star I Don't know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to to secure silence over some type of alleged Affair I just I can't speak to that and that was seen as a low blow uh by many as well as his response to Ukraine calling it a territorial dispute. While the United States has many vital national interests becoming further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia is not one of them. Ron DeSantis As a member of the House in the Obama Administration we in the Congress have been urging the president I've been to provide arms to Ukraine They want to fight their good fight.

They're not asking us to fight it for them and the president has steadfastly refused and I think that's a mistake so a flip-flop instead. Ron DeSantis has walked back those comments. But look at how different those comments from Rhonda santosar to Donald Trump And this isn't me taking aside, it's just trying to report some of the differences between the two candidates because they're pretty dang. Stark And for well, unfortunately for Ron DeSantis Donald Trump probably takes a win on this one.

What do you think Here we go through weakness and incompetence. Joe Biden has brought us to the brink of World War III We're at the brink of World War III Just in case anybody doesn't know it as president, I will bring back peace through strength. Peace through strength would have never happened. If I Was President There would not have been a war with Russia in Ukraine.

Zero chance that Lindsay would be happy. I Will say this even now, despite tremendous loss of lives and destruction of much of that country. I would have a peace deal negotiated within 24 hours. You could make a peace deal.

You could make a deal. obviously. Donald Trump's probably not going to be able to end anything in 24 hours, including lots of lawsuits and other headaches and problems. but at least it shows the motivation, the hope, the desire, and the urgency.

Something that Ron DeSantis did not do all these things really. Painting Trump is very different from DeSantis. Right on one hand, you're painting Trump as not able to be beaten down by Uh by the system, whereas the Santa's just got beat by Disney. Essentially, you have Trump who's taking this very tough on Ukraine and Russia approach saying it's so important that we need to prevent World War III he'll do whatever he needs to do to get a negotiated settlement as soon as possible.

whereas Santos initially called it a territorial dispute before walking that back. so you're seeing some very clear differences between the two candidates. Uh, you're also I mean even Ben Mala whom I've interviewed on the channel the real estate guy. He's a he's a big fan of believing that one of the big differences between Trump and DeSantis is that Trump inspires hope and really motivates people to vote.

Whereas maybe DeSantis less so. Uh, White House Obviously always criticizes the Republicans at the moment. the White House apparently has now condemned DeSantis for signing into a law that would allow residents to carry concealed carry guns without a permit. It's kind of like what California is trying to do.

except in California anybody can get a concealed carry license is the way that they're labeling it. You just basically can't carry it anywhere. Yeah, I think the only like you can't carry it at parks, public events, schools, libraries, retail establishments that don't explicitly have a sign saying you're allowed to carry in their store. So yeah.

okay. good job. California Anyway, DeSantis Signing a right to carry law basically. and uh, the White House calling that shameful and the opposite of Common Sense Gun safety.

Uh, in under the new law, anyone who legally owns a gun in Florida can carry it without a permit and training and a background check are not required to carry a gun in public in Florida anymore. Fascinating. Big differences there in Florida from certainly States like New York or California. So this sends you an update on DeSantis I'd Have to say in summary, here probably aren't going fairly well for DeSantis now, but I think it's way too soon to count anybody out in this election cycle, especially since you still got to get to actual debates.

you got to get to election year. Which election year is still a year away? A lot could change by then. Donald Trump could be totally free or it could be in jail. Or what's more likely is, we'll just still be twiddling our thumbs watching court cases and we'll see how DeSantis handles next year we'll see.

Thank you.