Is Palantir the next Tesla stock? The answer may not be as simple as some would think. In this video I will explain what needs to happen for $PLTR to hit a valuation of $1 Trillion and my own issues with the recent runup in the stock price.
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So checking my phone, Pilot here is currently trading at 26 billion dollars. That's a far cry from the one trillion dollar price tag I Put on it back in November 2020. now if you stay till the end of this video, I'll explain exactly what needs to happen for Palantir to actually hit that one trillion dollar market cap. That's not a joke, that's not clickbait.

That's what I Honestly believe in now, as always, don't click nothing. Don't smash nothing. Don't buy nothing. Just listen now.

I want to talk about a few things that are related to Palantir because over the past few days naturally, there's been a lot of hoopla over Palantir. The stock has gone through a absolute Rampage a tear and it's on everybody's Minds people are talking about it Kathy Wood is buying back and Chicken Genius is selling. A lot of people are talking about it now. I was the original Palantir investor who talked about it on YouTube I made my first video when it was 18 per share.

Nobody was talking about it and I immediately said I think this has one trillion dollar potential. People were laughing at me, man, then they kept laughing at me when it went to seven dollars, etc etc. Now I've never changed my position on Palantir, but here's what I want to explain to you I Made a few videos over the past few days explaining why I Think Palantir is running up too fast I'm looking at the stock price right now and it's not 100 year-to-date In fact, it's up almost 57 basically over the past month and that's Too much. You can't have a stock go up by 50 over the past couple of weeks and just say it's normal and that's okay.

Now a lot of you have been asking me this question which I want to address in this video before we go to the One trillion dollar Evaluation: Tom If you said back in November 2020 that this stock at 18 is cheap and it can go to a trillion dollars, why are you not warning us that the stock price is running up too high when it's still below your entry point, it's currently at 12 or 13 you entered at 18.. So why would you be warning us right now that it's running up so fast? When it's way below, you know, just zoom out and see that you're down big on the stock which I am. My entry point was 18, my average is around that, and I'm still down a lot on the stock. So the question is, is this a cognitive dissonance? Is this a contradiction? No.

I'll explain. Look when I was talking about Palantir I'm talking about the valuation. evaluation is based on my DCF model discounted cash flow model Valuation Now based on the DCF what we do, we essentially bring back from the future cash flows and would discount them to present values now that discount process is dependent on interest. what is the interest rates in the market? That basically gives you that discount rate, the higher the discount rate goes, the lower the value of future cash flow in present value.

That's very simple. bigger discount, lower present value. Just remember it this way now when we started doing these: DCFS back in 2020. I Just want to remind you that the interest rate was pretty much zero and we could work with a DCF discount rate of eight to ten percent.
Now currently, the rate has gone up all the way to five percent. Which means that we have to work with 12 to 14 discount rates. Which means that the present values of the future pre. Which means that the present values of the future cash flows of Volunteer are now less valuable in this interest rate environment.

That is why I'm telling you that things have changed. That is why you've seen multiples shrink. The stock market isn't accepting 40 50p anymore unless you're in video or Tesla right? So multiples of shrunk because of that. And that is why 13 In this economy and this interest rate isn't the 18 in 2020.

Now that's something you have to understand that doesn't mean that the stock isn't going to get there at some point. I Honestly believe it will. but it's just here to tell you that the current valuation of volunteer is not 13. The market absolutely changed the economy, change the macro change, The interest rates have changed, The discount rate has changed.

So if you run a DCF right now on stock MVP which is my platform. gonna put the link below. If you go and you run on our model and do a quick DCF model on valuation on Palantir, what you're going to get is you know I'm just going to do it on the app. By the way, we have an app for this so you can download it on app store or you know for your Android.

So for a ten dollar stock price, you'd need about 500 million in ebitda next year, which is far away from where they are right now. They're basically just almost broken. Even so, 500 million dollars of ebitda and an annual growth rate of 35 percent at a discount rate of 12. So assuming they hit 500 million in ebitda which is not the case this year, and assuming they're going to grow at 35 which they're not currently, it's a 10 stock.

So for me, it's a very simple analysis. I'm looking at this I'm saying well I haven't sold a single share I got in at 18 I stayed the course I bought more I'm not gonna sell it in the next 10 years I Don't care. but if I have to analyze this and look at the share price currently objectively the share price. right now with 13 dollars, it's just way too high.

Given the conditions, the stock has to grow into its valuation. now it might go to 20, 30, 40 on hype which it did already and it might not I Don't know. but if you want my honest opinion currently, it should be probably around 10 bucks and when it gives us better quality results next time and next time and next time it's going to slowly grow into a better valuation. That's how this should happen when the stock just hype and just formal and just gets ahead of its own honest valuation.

Fair market value valuation I mean it's unhealthy for the stock and I don't like it as a long-term investor because you know this isn't going to hold. Now that's about that. Now the second thing I want to talk about is the question I asked in the beginning: Is this a One trillion dollar company now? I Believe it is. but you have to understand what needs to happen for this to be a One trillion dollar company.
For this to be a One trillion dollar company, here's what needs to happen. We need to get to about 10 billion dollars of Evida. Now Ebida is very hard to get because ebitda is not revenues. I Mean just to give you a kind of a general assessment of where we at Tesla has an ebitda of about 3.5 billion dollars.

So for this company to get to one trillion dollars, we need about two and a half times of the current ebitda of Tesla. Now pilot this revenues right now is about two billion dollars a year. We're talking about 10 billion in Ibida. So which means that this thing is at least probably 10 years away.

There's no way this happens. Like realistically, optimistically, the fastest they can get to 10 billion ebitda is 10 years and that's going to be super fast. Even then it assumes a 50 to 60 annual growth rate from that point on for the next five years after that. So if you think that Palantir can hit 10 billion dollars in ebitda with a 50 to 60 growth rate, and then it's a one trillion dollar stock.

Now a lot of you will tell me in the comments: Tom There's no way in hell that this company can do these numbers and that's fine. The stock isn't for you I believe it can I Just have the patience to wait 10 years and see it happen I'm not in a hurry anywhere now. A lot of you may not have that time and that's fine. now.

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31 thoughts on “Palantir: the next tesla stock?”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars jo sé says:

    5bucks stock.

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jura Dosty says:

    Tesla is the next TESLA

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Vincent Stanley says:

    great post, what about SOFI?

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars John H says:

    Since you specifically did NOT ask viewers to like or subscribe…I liked and subscribed. Well played.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ken 1 says:

    Tesla will take Pantirs business once they launch Tesla/X. They’ll process data 10X faster with lower latency and energy costs.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michael Lau says:

    DCF on average rates given cuts that will come

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mike Smith says:

    i hope they do another pump and dump. run it all the way up to $35 so i can make some cash.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Bob Lee says:

    Are you serious, for p always is joke

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hola! Blake Anderson says:

    Why does Tom Nash people block people he works with? Not very loyal

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Bloodmoor says:

    pulsechain.

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Raviv Ben Shimon says:

    great video Tom

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Doug Gary says:

    How do you DCF model palantir when they are about to release AIP and all the details surrounding this and Ai. It literally makes no sense.

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars DesertTwilight says:

    It is definitely a sponsor video lolololol

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars TheStudentVlogg says:

    lmao someone wants a Ridge wallet sponsorship :L

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ivan Hoffman says:

    Farming PLTR videos eh?

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jeep Picker says:

    I bought it at $22.72. I made a mistake and never put the stop lost. Question for you: If Palantir hits $18 do you sell and wait to go down and buy more shares at cheaper price? Because that I'm trying to do recover my money back and maybe buy cheaper but is a risk move because what about if never hit the lower price again. Provide your thoughts appreciated.

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Tudor Daniel says:

    Why do you have $18 entry price and the average around that considering the stock was at $6? I am just wondering what was your logic.

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars 川杨隆 says:

    haha 🎉 you make me happy when you mentioned 1 trillion market capital 🎉🎉🎉

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Pugsy Malone says:

    The Pug abides, Damnit!

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Dennis Shulz says:

    Tom I'm curious are you tapering your discount rate forward to reflect future rate reductions, or are you just using a single discount rate?

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars C W says:

    Tim, you assume that Palantir earnings will only go up in a linear style in the next 10 years.

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Bill D says:

    If you haven't heard about Microsoft Fabric you are missing the biggest threat to Palantir

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars T Nelly says:

    Genuine question: Isn't data analytics a risky venture now with AI sprouting and morphing in every direction? Does Palantir have some secret sauce or proprietary advantage? Sorry for the ignorance, I'm new to this stock and just trying to understand it better. Cheers!

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Knight says:

    It’s AI hype i think, tesla got a premium of ev hype. Same thing

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Sabina Abrahim says:

    My son have that wallet, nice

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Pietro Giuliano says:

    I like you Tom but prognosticating over the future of a stock is just hearsay. We will have to look at their execution over the years, their guidance and their balance sheet. I think the risk-to-reward ratio is good with palantir. If they make it to the s&p 500 then that will really boost confidence

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars A W says:

    So you were happy to buy at $18 but now it’s cheaper at $13 you’re not happy to buy? Yea that makes sense

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