Inflation and Stock Market Crash: Michael Burry vs Cathie Wood - Who Is Right?
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The market crash is inevitable. It's imminent, it's almost here, just wait, one more. Second, that's been said. Since 2015., for six years we've been hearing the same tune being played about the market about to crash.

However, in hindsight that is as good as the weatherman on tv. It's very funny very entertaining, but rarely accurate, and nobody gives a crap about what the weatherman is saying. We all make our own decisions now. The market not only not crashed in the past six years, it actually ballooned for the past two years, which included a pandemic year or maybe even a two.

The s p 500 did a whopping 45, so the market is doing better than ever. Now. The question is: is this the year is 2021 the year where the market actually crashes? However, unlike the past five years, this time we have some heavy hitters on both sides of this argument. On the one hand, we have michael berry talking about inflation hyperinflation, a market crash.

On the other hand, we have kathy wood, the tesla god, basically talk about deflation and how inflationary concerns are irrelevant and in this video i'm going to test both of these arguments. To tell you whether i think the market crash is imminent or it's not. Essentially, this is going to be a battle between michael berry and kathy wood, which is something we all want to see, but can't get this video is going to be the closest you can get to it. So what i'm going to do in this video, i'm going to show you five arguments why the market is literally about to crash tomorrow, it's inevitable, but just to screw with your head, i'm going to show you five arguments why the market is not about to crash And this is all fud and pretty much a joke.

Stick around this is about to get bumpy now. The one reason i'm extremely excited to make this sort of video is because, unlike 2015 and onwards this year, we have some extra argument and extra circumstances to make it interesting. This is not just about overvaluation of the market, there's other factors in play here, which makes this into a very interesting debate, and since the person i like to debate the most is me: i'm gon na do the debate against myself, but at the end of the Video i'll give you my own conclusion, who i think is right me or me. In any case, i win.

So the only thing i ask of you is: don't click? Nothing, don't smash, nothing don't buy. Nothing! Don't subscribe to nothing. Just stick around with me. Give me your attention and i promise to give you a really good time for the next five to seven minutes.

So, let's start with the first five arguments that the market crash is inevitable and is literally around the corner. The first argument is inflationary and i have a scientific name for it. It's called the money printer goes essentially. This argument is saying that the federal reserve and the us government have provided so much liquidity liquidity being cash to the market and have lowered the interest rate to zero, essentially discouraging any type of savings that now this money went straight into the stock market straight into Commodities straight into raw materials made everything expensive as hell and due to the snowball effect of this whole thing, actually feeding itself.
We are now headed to inflation, probably even extreme inflation, and we can't do nothing about it until we raise interest rates and when we do that, we're going to crash the stock market, because what happens when you increase interest rates, essentially the dcf valuations of all these Companies, especially the companies with future profits, actually go down. Basically, inflation is going to lead to higher interest, which is going to lead to lower prices of shares, essentially crashing the stock market. Let's move on to argument number two, so the second argument also has a scientific name and it's called are expensive. If you take a look at the nasdaq 100, which is an index that lets you see, what's going on with the large cap, profitable tech stocks, you'll see that the price to sales average is about six or almost six, which is double than what we had in 2015 and is almost at the seven level, seven is the highest we ever had and that happened you guessed it during the dot-com bubble.

So the argument here is that we're nearing the stage where the stocks, the tech stocks are going to be so much overvalued. It's going to be a replay of the dot-com 2000 crash. Let's see, the third argument is called warning buffet and it has to do with the buffett indicator now. In case you didn't know, warren buffett is such an og.

He literally has an inflationary indicator named after his own legal name, which is something i'd love to have one day, but i doubt it the nash indicator. Well, we have the nash equilibrium, but it's not mine and on the serious note, this indicator has another name. It's called market cap to gdp market cap being the total value of stocks right now in the stock market and the gdp is the gross domestic product. Essentially, the total value of all the services and products we're producing, essentially, the comparison between the value, we're generating.

As a society versus the prices of the stock of the companies that generate that value, we want to see how much they're overvalued versus the produce that they're actually producing now right now the ratio is get ready, 207 percent, which means it's twice overvalued. It's quite heavy. Now, if you take a look at the chart - and you actually zoom out when in doubt, zoom out you'll see that the chart actually spiked right around 2019 q4 2018, it crossed 140 percent. Ever since the dot com crash we've been below that ratio in q4 2019.

We started crossing it and now we're parabolic we're 207. This is unprecedented. The price of the stock compared to the actual value of goods and services that we're providing right now as a society is twice as expensive. That's not a healthy situation and that's not a sustainable situation and the correction has to come.
The fourth argument is called show me the money, another scientific name i know, and it has to do with the amount of ipos initial public offerings that we had in the past year we're at 900 right now, 200 billion dollars raised in the past year alone. From 900 ipos, just as a comparison, the highest year we had so far was in you guessed it 2000 with 600 ipos, which is another indicator that the market is literally going crazy and the correction has to come much like it happened in the 2000.com crash. It is what it is and argument number five. I call you scratch my back.

I scratch your back. You pay me 0.05 percent. Now it actually has to do with the reverse repo market reverse reports. In case you haven't watched my video on it.

Essentially, it's a situation where the banks park their money overnight with the fed, because the banks can't hold too much money because a bank is not like a human being or a company. Cash is the liability for a bank. It holds cash and cash deposit for someone else, so it's a liability for the bank. Banks have to be balanced, they can't hold too much liabilities and overnight in order to actually balance their book check.

They give the fed some of the money and they receive collateral and in the morning they take it back. It's a very simple instrument just to keep the bank's balance and it's a really good indicator to what's going on in the market right now we're almost at 900 billion. Just on april, three months ago, we were at 31 billion dollars being parked at night by the banks right now we're at 900, almost at a trillion dollars. That means two things number one: the banks have a lot of cash that people have put in cash deposits, meaning that the money printer goes generated, a lot of cash, and now you see the results.

The other thing is that the banks see no opportunities outside to actually invest this money. They literally are willing to take 0.05 overnight interest just to keep the money they can't find any decent investment outside because are expensive stocks real estate. Everything is just way too expensive. So they rather just park their money and get it back for literally nothing or at least almost nothing.

That's a really good indicator of inflation. And now, let's talk about counter arguments and yes, i've changed angles since i'm debating. So the first argument has to do with a 10-year bond. Essentially, the 10-year bond is a debt instrument issued by the u.s government, and this is widely considered as a really good instrument to measure what the market is thinking about inflation.

If you watch my previous video about that, you know that the prices are negatively correlated to the yield. It's like a car, the cheaper you buy the car, the more value you're getting right, the better deal, you're getting the same thing with bonds, the cheaper you buy. It for the more yield you have and demand plays a huge part in that. So if the demand is the prices are actually going down, the yield is going up right now the yield went down by 22 and a half percent in the past two months, meaning the demand went up by 22.5 in the past month, meaning the marking is thinking That, over the course of 10 years that whatever two percent, this thing is paying is going to be enough to cover inflation.
Now counter argument, number two: i call the kathy wood argument. Essentially, this is basically saying well yeah. Warren buffett is right. Market cap to gdp is very high, but that's justified the disruptive power of these technological growth stocks we're dealing with right now, the palantirs, the teslas they're so big that this price is justified, they're about to change the way we do business.

The way we live and that's why we're pricing in all this future disruption into these stocks right now, it's not overvalued. It's just priced right again, it's a matter of opinion. If you cathy, would you agree with it if you weren't, buffet you're, probably laughing your ass off whatever it is you decide for yourself and speaking about kathy wood? Let's talk about deflation, which is the third argument here. Essentially, this argument is basically saying that a company like tesla is gon na, take the launch of existing legacy automakers and basically cause a deflationary impact to the market.

Now that's a lot of high words. What does it actually mean? It's actually very simple. Let me explain: let's say that at a certain city, tesla is going crazy, it's actually outselling the chevy cars completely and just using chevy as an example not specifically saying anything about chevy, but and what will happen in this hypothetical case and of course it is hypothetical. What will happen is that a lot of these existing dealerships will close, because tesla that took over a lot of this market is now not utilizing the whole dealership structure because they sell direct to consumer, so have a lot of growth actually taken into negative, because dealerships Are closing people don't have jobs, and a lot of this growth is actually tamed by the deflationary impact of tesla? Now tesla is just one example: she's saying that about her entire portfolio, she's, basically saying well, our companies are so destructive they're, going to put a lot of businesses out of business and cause a deflation which will counteract against the inflationary impact that we're seeing right now Matter of opinion, now, let's talk about item number four and that i call the oil honey trap.

Essentially, this has to do with all manufacturers - the old producers - i don't know if you call them manufacturers they're pumping out of the ground, but whatever they're stuck in the golden prison, essentially they're like the legacy automakers on tesla, they have to pay tesla regulatory credits just To stay in business, but by doing so they're killing their own business, it's the same thing with oil. The old producers have to keep the price at about 70 to 80, just not to go broke. The problem is with keeping oil prices so high they're, pushing people into renewable energy, and when i say people i mean whole economies, because when oil prices are so high, it's a negative incentive to use oil and a positive incentive to use renewable energy like solar panels, Like driving a tesla, a lot of things are happening that are deflationary because the old producers are keeping the price high they're, essentially screwing themselves, and they have no choice because they have to basically make a choice: either die now or die later, essentially they're taking as Much profits as they can right now because they know over the course of 10, 15 years they're pretty much done much like the legacy automakers. The fifth argument: i call the jerome powell argument: the transitory inflation, so you remember how a while back the lumber prices spiked and then they came down and what jerome powell is basically saying: hey guys what you're seeing right now is not inflation you're, seeing supply chain Interruptions not enough people to produce not enough people to distribute.
We basically have a shitstorm on our hands. We just spend a year in lockdown, it's gon na, take time to produce, to go back to production capacity, to distribution capacity and you're, going to see temporary issues with certain raw materials and commodities, and when we go back to full scope of production distribution, this will Basically, go away, that's the argument here and now it's time to the conclusion who won me or the other me. So what do i think about this? Well, i think a lot of these arguments are very interesting and i'm not going to be sitting here saying that i'm a prophet that knows everything but here's my opinion. I think that the biggest problem that we can't counter argument against is the supply of money that increased insanely, the zero percent interest that we cannot raise without completely crashing the market, basically putting us in limbo.

That's my biggest concern some of these shortages in the market. Right now may be, temporary technological stocks may be properly priced at certain companies like a tesla or a palantir. True, these whole arguments make a lot of sense. Yes, bond deals are going down for sure, but here's the thing i'm more closer to michael berry than kathy wood on this, because i think that inflationary impact is inevitable when you have so much money in the system and so little incentive to save, because the interest Rates have to stay at very low levels.

Essentially, what you have right now and it's about to get worse - is that everybody's driving a lambo right now, the gardener, the pool guy, the bartender, all driving, lambos and ferraris there's so much free money in the market. Right now, basically pushing us on the brink of inflation or even severe inflation. I don't agree with michael berry that it's going to be hyperinflation, but i think we're actually headed to highly inflationary times stagflation and a lot of issues that we have to resolve and have not been addressed yet. And i think that will lead to a market crash.
In late 2021, early 2022 - but again, it's just my opinion: i'm not a financial advisor, i'm just a guy on the internet. You have to do your research, because this might be inaccurate. This might be wrong. This might be the ramblings of a madman who knows blah blah mother effing blah.

I appreciate you spending this few minutes with me. Thank you so much a huge shout out to the channel members and the patrons. I love you all, we'll see you guys in the next video.

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34 thoughts on “Inflation and stock market crash: michael burry vs cathie wood – who is right?”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Little Red Monster says:

    Chinese stocks generally are massively undervalued and oversold, hard to ignore if you're a value investor. I've been grabbing EDU and MOHO. Expecting big upside in the near-term.

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars bahtiyar mamadaliev says:

    Thank you for your work and efforts you putting. What do you think about DDD?

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Roman Labuš says:

    I think that companies that have strong supply chains and innovative technologies like Tesla will prosper and companies that are inefficient or are using older technologies like VW or Ford will be massively damaged.

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars sots 666 says:

    All arguments by wood, are speculative. Burry’s are based in numbers. So a crash will happen…we will never be able to predict when exactly.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Salva Portillo says:

    Tom, you keep saying the fed will raise interest rates to fight inflation, but they can't any more. Maybe the limit is at 0.75-1% (over that, the interest payments over the debt get too high and the market severely crashes), but you can't fight a 2-5% inflation rate with that. They are going to let inflation run hot and dilute the debt nominally. That's the playbook. Along the way we may have some corrective phases because everything is still overvalued.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ZooDinghy says:

    Cathy Woods would plaster the world with solar panels for a currency that uses 1,000,000x more energy than a VISA transaction. Case closed.

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Yeti Vanmarshall says:

    Russell 2k is down 15% – that's crash territory to me.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars George papageorgiou says:

    I use that with my girl all the time..I promise it's gonna be a good time for 5-7 min

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mike Smith says:

    The interesting piece for me is that looking at the data, it appears as though a majority of this inflation is from new cars, used cars, gas, and hotels. It doesn't seem like a lot of consumer goods are really being driven up in price. Makes we wonder how big the risk is.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars bruh69 says:

    Sorry but I still believe that Cathie is generally a moron honestly

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Aya B says:

    I like Michael Burry. But who knows what he can truly say these days. I side with Cathie Woods- but don't follow her advice if you are stripped for liquidity. Her prognosis won't come true until 2025.

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Universalis Solis says:

    Inflation is happening and we know that because:

    1. M2 increasing

    2. Supply is limited and therefore expensive for businesses while demand is high leading to inflated prices.

    3. Work shortages lead to production limitations further compounding supply.

    4. Fed pumping money into already recovering economy because votes or something.

    5. Stimulus money further inflated currency.

    6. Corporations projecting backlogged orders until 2022.

    Yeah that’s a far more tangible argument in my opinion than Cathie’s “Muh Tesla; Muh Oil”

    If she thinks people are going to buy a Tesla because gas prices are increasing she’s seriously insane.

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Matt DeCandia says:

    Look Michal Burry has no place being in a conversation with Cathie Wood .

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Sneaker Klev says:

    Tom why are you changing titles and thumbnails after you release your videos?

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Remington Steele says:

    Please get your grandpa on the show. He probably has a better idea than anyone

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars heressssjohnnny137 says:

    Subbed . Also Unsubbed a few financial youtubers who communicate half as much in twice the time

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hola! harry woods says:

    Hi Tom, I really enjoy your channel look forward to it ,but I think Kathy wood is less wrong than you are of course just my opinion👍

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Blake Johnson says:

    I'm cautious of being a bear all the time and missing out on opportunities but Cathie Wood's justifications seem quite naive and 'hopeful' in spite of the proven alarming indicators that are present.

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Addy Onciano says:

    PROBLEM IS BIDEN AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE DOING ALL THEY CAN TO GET RID OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THEY ARE PURPOSELY LOWERING THE VALUE OF AMERICAN DOLLAR TO CREATE INFLATION TO FORCE AMERICANS IN TO GOVERNMENT DEPENDENT CITIZENS. WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STAY IN POWER. REMINDS YOU OF SOCIALISM? THE RICH ARE MOVING OUT OF STATES UNDER DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND THEY ARE SLOWLY MOVING OUT OF AMERICA.

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars K Hall says:

    "I promise to give you a really good time for the next 5 to 7 minutes."

    Funny coincidence, that's exactly what my ex used to say.

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Tommy Gorden says:

    So basically just sell all your none Tesla stocks and put it all in Tesla stock. Got it. Done.

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars John Smith says:

    Another good & humorous video from this channel. Keep up the good work.

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Max P says:

    When faced with two scenarios A or B to choose from, you can be pretty sure that what plays out will be C.

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Lopez Finley says:

    Robert henry john is the best, recommending him to all beginners who wants to recover all their looses like I did

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars RogueSystem087 says:

    kinda refresshing to see someone just be normal, and not shove a coupon code or patreon limited spots or buy whatever with whatever discount code.

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Crazy Alien says:

    Once they decide to quell inflation with rising interest rate there will be no reason why people wouldn't remove their money from stocks and save.
    Think that might crash the market

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars vanekirk says:

    Joe Biden is doing everything he can to tear down business and the stock market with his new executive orders. He still has a lot of time in office.

  28. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Luap says:

    For a market that is not crashing, my whole portfolio has been in the shitter the last 5 months

  29. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars David Lim says:

    Something strange.
    TLT up Utility up DXY up Gold up … crash is coming ?

    and lastly, wall street holding huge amount of put option (Aug'21 expiry).

  30. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars IVIARSHALL says:

    valid arguments and vivid discussion – thanks. But unfortunately nobody is talking about the greatest and costly crisis humanity has faced in the last 70 years. Climate Crisis. My hypothesis is that there will be no crash bc we will needeven more money and massive leverage with near to zero interest for atleast another decade to turn the ship and steer into a climate friendly economy. Therefore i predict that all eco-friendly stocks will gain massively. Also, high conviction play is Palantir – look at their new climate saving video.

  31. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Alex Tanner says:

    Awesome how you play devils advocate and give us both sides of the story, thank you!!!!

  32. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Chris Loy says:

    It's ironic that Tom is playing the opposite of Russian roulette

  33. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Internal Tissues says:

    Burry said in the july barrons e-mail interview that he's happy if his thesis is right within a few years. He's not thinking in terms of days weeks or months, so just assume that he's very very early trhis time around.

  34. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Tom Nash says:

    Who you got in this debate: Michael Burry or Cathie Wood?

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