The only thing that maybe could save the country is also one of the scariest things for the country. I Believe Bill Clinton has an island I Think he still has it and I think it is still being used. Can you find me a single clip of someone losing their life from that tactic? I mean maybe it exists I haven't seen it I I Think he probably would make it better president than Donald Trump Only because he's not going to say that for no reason. He's warning people, right? There's a scary possibility of getting closer to Communism and getting closer to less freedom I Think it's way worse than we're even able to see right now.

He's already using AI in a way to manipulate elections. How's Twitter Income? It's it's it actually. So you'd be surprised putting pretty much all of my money in one particular thing. And that is welcome back to another episode of the Meet Kevin show.

today we're back with Mikey but also Matt Wallace Welcome Matt Wallace Uh, over 1.4 million followers on Twitter You cover trend tring topics, trending news all the time. It you are the master of engagement on on Twitter and the first engaging question I have for you is who's going to win the election. We'll start easy. Well, unless you run obviously.

I think Donald Trump right now has by far the best chance to win the election. There was a time when it looked like maybe Ron Des sis had a chance to sneak in there. He's he's fizzled out I mean he's fizzled out at the end of the day? a lot of people who I know that were considering Ting him decided not not so much anymore. It seems like Donald Trump has a clear Runway now to go against Joe Biden He's beating him by around three points in the polls right now.

Yeah, which is actually surprising because at the same time, last election cycle like before the election started at the same amount of time before it, we saw Biden up by I think two points on Trump the PO and a lot of people don't know this but Trump you may know this, but Trump won in 2016 by like 100,000 votes in three states. He lost in 2020 by about 100,000 votes in three states despite losing the popular vote because the Electoral College so it's actually way easier for Trump to pick up those few votes he needs to win than people even imagine. So if he's up in the polls right now, that does not look very good for the people who are on the side of oh I hope Trump is the nominee because I think we can beat him. it just doesn't It doesn't look good and and a lot of people think based on what I post that I'm just like super far right I'm really not I mean at the end of the day I just want to see the country back on track with the economy I just want to see us have a good future I Mean it's frustrating to watch when they're going trillions of dollars into debt.

trillions I mean with the te like come on like what are they doing and to watch them sell special interest groups all the time it's just frustrating and if someone can come in and fix that, it it just it would make life better for the rest of our future. Do you think somebody like VI can fix that? I I I'm starting to warm up to him I really am I mean I Was skeptical at first. of course you know he's he's coming onto the scene, he's coming on hot I I Do feel like he's starting to kind of make some inroads though. He's the only person and you could say maybe he's he's putting on act, but you can't You can only put on act for so long.

I Mean at some point you have to realize that's that's really what what he's doing like. those are his opinions. He's the only person that's willing to say things that you're not allowed to say quote unquote, right? and he doesn't recite all the talking points that the other candidates recite based on what they have to because of who their donors are. So he's pretty blunt and you kind of have to appreciate that.

You know that's was one of the things people really liked about Trump was that he has this uh, very simple way of speaking. uh and very clear like people thought, well at least I know where he stands rather than getting a a runaround political jargon Answer: I Think maybe Is that potentially what people felt out of Dan Santis a little bit. Maybe yeah it seems and he was the Santis I Feel like has gotten worse as uh VR has gotten better. It's interesting how how that works.

Viv's taking over, but then there's Nikki as well taking it. She? yeah I mean Nicki Haley's her popularity rating though online is absolutely in the garbage. I mean she because she's pushing so much of the proar stuff, which is just a real big turnoff. To anyone who understands that they're only pushing that so hard because they get paid through the back end through it whether it's donors or special interest groups that are.

yeah, all that stuff. and I I I think another interesting thing is about about Viva He when he first started, he didn't look like he knew what he was doing. Really, no one knows what they're doing for real for real when they first started. you have to get a hang of it and I' I've watched him to where he didn't really know what he was doing interviews and not a lot of people maybe even noticed that.

you can tell if you're if you've done them before like you can see the little things where he's like okay, he's really trying to get the hang of it now though. I feel like he has that handle on it like he's He's gotten a lot better at it, which is it's interesting to see the development of candidats rather than just like who they are after they're already at that point. That's a good point. So a lot of practice that he's getting.

Now how much do you think the the spread flip between Biden and Trump that you just referred to is because of the economy? Oh, I mean huge percentage of it when you're looking at gas that's now twice as expensive in many cases when you're looking at grocery store prices. And and to be fair, Trump did allow too much money to be spent when it comes to the national debt approximately 7 trillion under under Donald Trump Most of that in terms of like the biggest spending was around three to four trillion in just really the covid years and a lot of people say okay, well look at what the President did Obama around 8 trillion in his 8 years Joe Biden's already at like 6 something trillion nearing above 7 trillion in only three years, which is insane I Mean look at Congress though that's the most important thing. If there's a congress that's willing to spend a lot of money, get back door deals and that type of thing, that's where you're going to see that happening the most regardless of who's President Wow, last week you asked if uh people thought Elon Musk would make a better president than Joe Biden My Question is do you think Elon Mus make a better president than Trump oo interesting question Um so right now I I I I think he probably would make a better president than Donald Trump only because he just simply Works an insane amount even more than Trump and Trump works a lot I think Trump in his first term will be significantly worse for a president than Trump in his second term. So I I will put the caveat: maybe in his second term, Donald Trump will be better than Elon Musk because he has so much more experience.

He does have faults though. Trump did not do everything perfect. He did make a lot of mistakes trusting people he shouldn't have trusted hiring the wrong people. Elon Musk I Feel like would make better decisions at for a first term.

Maybe Trump would be better for a second term. We'll have to find out. I guess wow Do you think uh Trump will make it? I mean it looks like it's going to come down to the Supreme Court Do you think he'll be on the ballot if Trump's not on the ballot? I mean what do we do at that point If they can find a way to succeed in that, it'll be pretty ridiculous. And another another thing I will add that people say oh you Mus can't run cuz he's not United States citizen Yeah, that's true, but I mean just change the law.

Let let him should that change I I Don't know. Probably not to be honest, but uh, it's just it's fun to theorize about that. Just have fun I've kind of thought about it because I was born in Germany uh and so I ran for governor California and I'm like it is interesting not saying that anybody would actually vote for me for president, but it is interesting that you know you could be born with a different color of skin or born in a different location. Uh, but and kind of like is there a potential equivalence between racism of the color of your skin and while you're born in a different country Therefore, you can't do something interesting I would hope not.

I mean it's I feel like you never really meet people that will openly I've never met someone at least that will openly say I'm judging someone based on oh yeah, no of course like I feel like it's not like a huge thing. but at the end of the day it does make sense that you want someone who has experienced culture here who grew up here. That's a good point. But if you if you moved here I know you moved here when you're pretty young so 18th right? So I mean it doesn't there.

Maybe there should be a rule that like if you moved here when you were a child you know and you you got to experience it Or even if you didn't as long as you like truly have. If there's a way you could put someone on a lictor test and know for sure if they really have the best interest at heart, right? that would be better than most people from the United States who are President anyway? So I mean you know? I Guess it's it's hard to say who would be the best person at any given election cycle and a lot of is just media attention. I Mean really, we would be better served to just have like a super a super good business person be in charge of the economy and that should have nothing to do with all the social issues. Why do we have the same person deciding social issues? That's deciding the economy? Those are two completely different things.

You can't have the best of both. It's it just doesn't make any sense. So you're almost thinking somebody should be responsible for. Hey look here's our.

our welfare, our housing assistance, our social security, our Medicare and then somebody else should run the rest of the budget like a business so to speak. It would have to be structured in a way that would work because that would be very difficult to do if it can be structured correctly. I Do think that could actually work better, especially in in the modern day and age it used to not be so much that way back in the day. You know, like 100 150 years ago, there wasn't really so much of a problem with that because the best people wanted to be in those positions.

there wasn't the internet to cause all the drama, and and people just typically voted because they wanted to have the right issues be done better. Now people tend to vote for, but in my opinion, issues that the Federal government should have absolutely nothing to do with because that's a distraction from their actual job which is to make sure our are better. What do you think will be a bigger weight in voting this election? the economy, or those single issue voter uh, priorities? uh in terms of swinging, who wins? Interesting I mean I hate to say it it I Hope it's the economy because that's if if we don't fix the national debt problem right now, we're going to come to a point which anyone who is in finance like like yourself, you know we're going to default on the debt eventually. Eventually it's you can't just keep racking up de forever people aren't going to want to buy US Treasury bonds anymore.

At some point it will fail if it's not fixed quickly and it may not be possible at this point to really have a soft Landing We're going to be not only screwed, we're going to be screwed in such a way that Generations will feel that and all. For what, it's not like they built up some massive safety structure I mean already The Even: Look at the oil reserves for example, already that's mostly drained. Yeah, from the Biden Administration look at what if they built with that $33 trillion in debt that's sustainable long term. All of it has been on short-term spending stuff, most of which could have been done way more efficiently.

Oh do we? I mean for example, I'm supposed to in theory be for the military, which is ridiculous. That's kind of like the way they they've structured that issue. Uh, but uh I don't I don't support anything I'm supposed to support I just look at it and say what's the best thing regardless of what should I say, what shouldn't I I don't care I'm just going to say the truth, which is that you shouldn't be spending a trillion dollars on the military per year when every country has the ability to wipe another country off the planet in a few seconds. If it gets to the point where you have to use your full force, you're already at that point where you're not going to need your full force because you're going to be on the next level.

which is I'm not going to say the word because we're on YouTube demonetize the video. but uh, you know what it is like if they drop the big ones. Yeah, what does it matter that you have a $50 million attack helicopter? You know, like what? what's that going to do? Is there an argument that I mean Some people make this argument that well if if we spend money in all the different areas that we're in, so whether it's in trying to stabilize the Red Sea which I guess that didn't work out recently uh or Israel and Gaza the money I mean we're basically financing their War uh, the Israeli incursion. We're financing the Ukrainian defense on the Eastern block.

And uh I mean the foreign aid that we send to every country from Egypt to European countries is is, uh I mean vast? What? What's your take? Is there a chance that that without that sort of spending, we get closer to that uh, the big one? uh, problem versus just keep spending the money and maintain the status quo? So the way I look at it is every single country that would not get to the level where you have to go to the big ones. Wish I wish I could just say the word come on. YouTube like fix that. Come on, what are you doing I don't want to demonetize your video? Maybe you don't care, but whatever.

But uh, the the point is if it gets to that point there, like maybe I don't know the exact number, but there's a certain number of countries that have that capability. all of the rest of them the United States could easily B with 10% of the power or less. So it's like I I I Do think it's important to have enough strength to prevent that? I Don't think it requires a trillion dollars a year while you're $33 trillion in debt because if we get to the point where the US dollar is extremely unstable, that's way more dangerous in terms of getting to the big one than anything else by a magnitude of of many times over. So the highest priority is maintaining strength in the dollar.

You prevent, uh, losing the leverage that you have in the first place. Could uh, Dollar is supporting companies like Boeing which I guess they're really good at keeping the doors on. I Don't know if you saw the new Hey by the way, We just launched our new website for House Hack our real estate startup. Learn more at the House.com website.

Not only can you submit real estate deals to us, but you'll also be able to check the investor tab where we are putting all of our updates in the same format that you all have been loving over at Ec.com We've got it all linked down below to make it easy for you. What about cryptocurrencies? Like could? Could that protect our uh uh, you know, help solve some of the issues that we face with our economy and our spending problem? Absolutely. I Mean cryptocurrency is the only way right now to tell the government F You economically, it's the only way where you can go around being so dependent on the decisions of bureaucrats who often only have their best interest in mind. So I think cryptocurrency will definitely experience not only many more bull runs, it's It's probably going to be the type of thing where if you're holding it now, you will get extraordinarily wealthy from it if you're holding, at least not.

Doesn't have to be a lot if you're holding just a decent amount like enough you like. I I Don't want to put an exact number on it, but if you have what's your price Target what's what's the exact amount? Yeah, yeah, but but yeah. I do think people who are investing in cryptocurrency in a serious way now will see significant returns and and that's because it's going to provide value to a lot of people and already is. But it's going to get better.

and and as the governments get worse which they are doing more corrupt, worse managing the economy, it's going to be more important effort that we do it ourselves. and crypto is the way to do that. Do you think there's a way the United States could actually be in a very strong economy? Come around the election, stock market, up, real estate market, maybe didn't crash, uh uh. And and people have jobs and there's jobless, low joblessness? still? is there a chance then that spread between the low sentiment we have now for the economy flips to positive sentiment.

which means do people vote for Biden in that swing? Interesting. I Mean the question is, how much longer can a stickman be propped up? the US Economy is being held up by fake legs. Can it hold up for another year? Maybe. Can it hold up for another 5 years? Maybe.

Can it hold up for 10 years? I Don't think that's possible. POS I Really, Don't you think there's implosion within the next 10 years because of the debt? Of course, there's no doubt about it. there will be an implosion, probably within the next 10 years. Probably Before then, there's a few big things that are happening.

like for example, a lot of Uh companies are going to have to restructure the way their loans are at a much higher rate. Now some of them will go out of business. a lot of them. Maybe how are they going to be able to survive with such a higher interest rate all of a sudden? I Mean it's not a good thing at all.

When you when you go from 2% to 8, 9, 10% right in like what a year I mean it's it's it's not sustainable. I I I Think even if the economy balances out a little bit temporarily, people understand that. people have a feeling people understand where it's going. It's already gotten so much worse.

Biden has the ability to win technically speaking, but it would only be if uh, his opponent which is most likely going to be Donald Trump Really really? bombs and he seems to be running a smart campaign strategy right now which is not being too out there right even though it's annoying at times because it's interesting to see the debates and stuff. But I I Feel like his campaign strategy is a little bit smarter this this election cycle and that will bold well when it comes time for uh, you know, the election to roll around, that's Trump's uh strategy? Yeah, I think I think it's a little bit better this this election cycle he doesn't seem to be. but but then again, the media obviously will play a role in that and they're going to ramp things up as as everyone knows that they're seems like his best advertising right now are all of the Uh attacks against him. So all of the lawsuits and you know whether it's Maine or the Colorado ballot issues every time or or even you know when he has his mug shot I mean that was a big fundraising time.

Uh, which it. It's interesting because it seems like no matter how much he's attacked by the existing government or the mainstream media. uh, it actually just helps him. What do you think of that? Yeah, I mean I think it.

I To be honest, I Don't think it has too much of an impact on moving the needle, people. just want to have a good economy right now. people. People don't care as much about the social ISS that that they did in the past.

At this point when when you can't afford to keep your family healthy and and E you know it's people. stop caring so much about top priorities inflation. Yeah, I mean I could see it shifting a little bit more. you know if if there's enough manipulation.

But one thing a lot of people don't realize that happened in the last election cycle. The way people vote was changed drastically almost overnight and they right, they took advantage of that. um, and uh what I think a lot of people should look at is is the fact that there is there's a cult in the United States Right now, there's a cult that seriously has the intention to change the culture of the United States forever. I Call it the WL cult.

The W cult is, uh, it's a good phrase. It's a good phrase W cult. They are in a position right now and and there there are many Democrats who are who are amazing people that just want to have a better like. Some of them are confused.

Maybe some of them aren't It just depends. I mean there's Republicans that are confused too. I mean I I don't want I'm definitely not Republic I'm definitely not Democrat I Just want good people to win and that sounds cliche. I mean know.

Oh, it's a cool thing to say. Oh, you're so cool No. I mean anyone can say that it's but to actually stick to it and vote based on that is a little difficult at times because you can get swept up and everything. But at the end of the day, the way they change that, and because there's a cult, here's something that happened in a bunch of households: Across America Parents who are part of that I I Think we can call it a C I Think it's fair to say that it's basically their religion.

They they care about that more than anything else in their life besides maybe their family. They chose to get their kids to vote. All you have to do, you get your kid a mailing ballot. You can fill it out for them.

Sure. And then technically that's legal. and if you're part of a cult, you're going to care a lot more about doing that. And and forcing a lot of those kids over 18 wouldn't have voted unless their parents made them because of the way the voting structure changed.

That's why there were so many more votes than the election before. That's why we saw Joe really winning. I Mean if that didn't happen. Also, Donald Trump did make the mistake of telling people not to do that and not really taking advantage of it so he needs to.

He absolutely needs to take for that. Um, but at at the end of the day that right there. Unless there's a strategy put in place to make it so that it's not just very one-sided when it comes to the mail and ballots, it's going to be difficult for Trump to win I think he's going to do that though and I think it will. It will succeed, but we'll have to see I mean it's definitely.

it's a scary time because of how many changes have been appointed. I mean they basically I said I I Think that's as close to stealing the election as you can possibly get is the mail inbalance is the mail inbalance is changing the way votes are and using that in a way where technically you're not breaking the rules, but you just change them so that you're not breaking them. So it's like I mean I don't know, it's it's it's a very complicated uh you think Trump can leverage encouraging people to use mail and ballots as well to maybe balance that out. of course I mean if if Trump is able to really capitalize on that I think it's going to be an easy election for him to win Will he win the popular vote I don't know I think it could that popular vote will be close.

But in terms of the Electoral College a smart strategy where you pick and choose to run effective campaigns to get more mail and balloting in those, States will probably win. I Mean I Think he'll probably win in that situation based on the current polling data. Got to get Republicans to do the early voting. The early voting.

Are you a fan of the elect Electoral college? or is it something that you think is outdated? I Think electoral college is one of the only things protecting the country right now. In a perfect country where you didn't have mass illegal immigration, where a huge percentage of the time those people come in not understanding the culture, not understanding what's best for the future. and uh, even if they can't vote, their kids can and that's you. Know that's part of the system, right? But when you have millions of people who have a completely different culture coming into a country and then they're raised in a different way with a different value system which not is not necessarily bad, right, but at the end of the day that can lead to more votes for one party than the other.

If if that didn't happen, if there was a perfect system then maybe we wouldn't need the electoral college. But because of what they're doing right now I Feel like it's it's it's crucial, it's it's holding the country together because then you can't just have a bunch of illegal immigrants go into one state and flip the entire entire country like if California is experiencing that at big time right now. If the Electoral College didn't exist, they would ramp up even more legal immigration into California and then say look now it's easy for us to win because we have. That's already why the popular voice changed so much over over the last over 30 years.

That is interesting because California's already maxed out essentially on its electoral college going to the Democratic candidate. But now if you had an extra two million voters, let's say all of a sudden, in California you could swing the popular vote. So that's an interesting comparison that the Electoral College could minimize. that.

The selection is going to be interesting because we have. Assuming Trump wins the primary, we're going to have two candidates that have already been president, so people have already seen them in office for four years. How many people who vote for Trump or Biden do you think are voting because they support the candidate versus just opposing the other candidate? That's a good question. I Feel like this election will be less so there will still be a lot of that obviously.

I Feel like people are familiar so much with the two candidates now that it's not going to be as much of the I hate the other guy. So I'm voting for it's more just like I want these policies. So I'm going to vote for this person I Feel it'll be more like that. Still though, mostly, yes it'll be I hate the other person I Mean it just.

it just depends I guess it. It would be nice if uh, someone even more I mean Joe Biden's a terrible president I Don't think anyone I've never met someone in real life right? who Who says I love Joe Biden he's the best presid ever. Maybe they exist somewhere I don't meet those people and I don't know who does. but uh, I think if Joe Biden if someone even less popular, like even worse, even more hated than him is put as the nominee which is a possibility, then that could lead to a really hate filled election where that is the primary motivating factor.

Joe Biden though people are familiar with him, is not as much going to be. There's a uh, this rumor that's been circulating that uh, which has happened in Prior elections I can't remember exactly which one. but basically even in the primaries as as late as like June or July switch the candidate right at the end and throw in like a Gavin Nome or something like that. Do you think something like that could happen I heard you talking about that some on your show but Gavin Nome at the end of the day is is perhaps one of the on a policy level least effective politicians of all time.

I I I ran against yeah I know so good job I Can't disagree I was rooting for you I was rooting for you and I I think you had a smart strategy too cuz you didn't you didn't try to play it super like oh I'm on this side versus this side you just like hey, you know Common Sense which again, like technically that's like the easy thing to do I feel like now it's not cool anymore, but it's still right whether it's cool or not anymore. and uh, and at the end of the day if you had one, California would have been better. Oh thank you so I I hope I hope if if you run again I I Really hope you win, pull apprciate it. Pull off.

Auner There there we go California needs a little love? Yes so but but I guess on the on the topic of of them flipping, maybe even somebody else like could. Is this going to be a do you think this is a Biden Trump rematch or are we going to get juked here at the So this is what I think people, people who are President You get to have 400 or more servants that are helping you 24/7 there's someone to do every single thing for. You get the best food you get the best places. You get constant media attention which can be fun sometimes, right? Bully pulpit y Yeah so so you get it's It's a really fun job in some ways.

Now there's a lot of hard things to it. It's stressful, right? but I believe Joe Biden Very much wants to keep being in that position because he gets all of the nice amenities from. kind of cool. Yeah, yeah.

I I don't I don't think Joe Biden wants to be president as much as he wants all of the things that come with it the benefits of it cuz he has a lot of people in his administration that are doing a lot of the work for him anyway. So he just gets to have a nice easy vacation which is pathetic and absolutely dreadful for the country because we don't have a strong leader who's doing a good job. and maybe it would be even worse if he was trying to do things I don't know but but but the point is I I believe he would try to win again because of that. Okay, and so I I think if he's trying, he'll probably win just based on all historical data and the fact there's no clear candidate that could take over in his place.

Biden would win out of the Democrats Yeah I think he'll wi out of the Democrats I think most likely what happened with Ivanka and Kushner Why Why does it? Why do they seem so distanced from Donald Trump Now I think at the end of the day, both of them don't really have as much of America's best interest at heart as other people he could hire would have. Oh wow, as a familiar level. that's why they they got in those positions I Really hope he learned that Ianka Jared shouldn't have important positions in the administration. If he wins, probably wins, he wins.

hopefully right. And uh I Do think there's a couple people that maybe could even be better as president than Donald Trump But none of them have a chance to win. Of the people who have a chance to win, Donald Trump is is by far the best option because he already has the experience of of multiple failures, multiple successes. he won't do the failures.

Hopefully next time and he will do successes hiring. I Think one of the most important things: I've always said the smartest thing a president could do would be instead of hiring from the pool. that's there. literally I that was an interesting way to pronounce that word literally, but literally maybe I watched Andro Tate beforehand.

I Don't know. but uh, if you just make applications, come in if you applications, hire from the public and literally find the best people and hire them. Don't care about anyone who's like a couple people you need that have had experience right to help guide the way like a Rudy everybody. So you're saying Dra the Swamp Poy poy yeah and Trump didn't do as much as he could really truly let everyone apply.

Be careful, screen people do a good job, make sure people have experience, make sure people are smart. but don't hire just because they've done something or been in a position or know someone, really hire the best. And if that is done and you don't have the same group of people it's like a gang, a mafia in charge, then our country country will get significantly better. And I have faith that at least to some degree Donald Trump will be capable of putting together a cabinet that doesn't have those people next time.

It's hard, but it's possible including I Ianka and Jared I Really hope they are not part of the administration in any serious way. Are you in support of having like an age cap for presidency? and if so, what would that number be? Or 69ine? yeah, nice. I mean I mean it's no further questions. like if if if we do see some someone who who is really good and who's older.

there are exceptions, right? But at the end of the day I Do think you'd be more likely to have good candidates in the future Donald Trump being the obvious person in question here because he is over that age so like if you made it that way right now he couldn't win, then you say who would win and I I I Don't think it would be fair to say okay, we're going to change law to make it so Trump can't want run or can't can't win and he is very vibrant. He doesn't seem like he's old right now like Biden does. so you can't exclude Trump by changing law. But if you change it for the future and there's no one excluded automatically from that, then I do think that could be a good like at the beginning of a president's second term, you change a rule or something like that.

something like that. um is um, is Epstein still alive I Saw a tweet of yours within the last 24 hours. I saw a tweet that Epstein's alive as well as a tweet of proof that he was murder. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

so I'm curious like what what do you think actually happened to him? So the Tweet about him still being live is Megan Kelly on her show said that she is going to allow us to hear from Epstein himself. so it seemed like okay, she's hinting he's still alive I Personally don't believe he's still alive. There's a possibility of it. I do I do believe he was murdered and uh, I I believe very powerful people did it.

Which if you don't believe that I mean it's it's possible not to believe it, right? But if you look at the camera evidence, the camera's going off. If if you look at the fact that there's so many people who if he stayed alive, had a very strong possibility of going to prison for the rest of their lives, Sure, if you're going to go to the prison for the rest of your life, that's an extremely strong motivating factor to take someone's life. And I I am fully understanding the fact they're capable of doing that. They had the motivation to do it and all the circumstances surrounding are so weird unusual.

MH Most likely that is exactly what happened and uh, if you're Gilan Maxell right now, you shouldn't feel safe at all. Uh, she doesn't know as much as she seems to have been silenced to some degree. more so than him. I don't know what tactic was used to make that happen, but uh, but yeah I mean I I Do believe there's technically a small possibility he's still alive.

I' say it's very, very very small. and uh, it. It is fun. It is fun though to speculate on that like I mean like you'll see like if I make a tweet about it, it's because it's interesting, not necessarily because uh, there's a high probability of that happening is is that the strategy on on X or or old Twitter Like fun fun speculation like how do you balance fun spec from news? How does that work? you know I mean it can be I think at the end of the day, the amount of community note posts that I get compared to Elon Musk For example, it's around the same.

okay comparison. I mean compared to probably less than mainstream media though. Yeah, I get significantly I have a significantly higher credibility rating than the mainstream media. Obviously, if you're posting breaking news right after happens constantly, you're not going to get everything right, but the vast majority I have a very, very very high level of understanding that if I post accurate information consistently, that's going to be the best strategy long term to making sure people are happy and and want to come to you for information, you have to make sure that is the case.

But at the same time, I'm not going to be afraid from saying I believe this crazy thing may be true. We have to look into it more because if you say I believe this crazy thing may be true 10 times it's going to be true a few of those times. so you have to. you have to spec.

and if you don't say any of those 10 times, then you're not going to be bringing attention to something important. For those, a different perspective, exactly. Uh, now for the Um Epstein situation. You know the Clinton's names came up a lot.

Uh, Hillary Clinton's been trending for like the last 48 hours and today's interestingly j6 we're filming this on uh, that's funny. funny time. Yeah, yeah, uh. what do you think about Uh Hillary Apparently the the comment that came up in the last documents was that uh Maxwell went to Hillary's daughter's wedding as opposed to going to a deposit I and she pretended that she pretended to be sick for implying this connection between the two.

Uh, there was also this allegation from Virginia that uh Bill Clinton stormed into Vanity Fair threatening them not to write stories on. Jeffrey Epstein What's going on here with the Clintons? So I I believe that that is something he would do I mean if there are cameras at the same level, there are cameras Now at the time that happened I Feel like we'd have footage of it because there's no footage. You just have to take word of mouth. I Mean the Clintons have had a lot of people losing their life who are connected to them.

They've had so many strange things happening to them at. So if it's a couple things here or there, you can say it's coincidence. When it's that overwhelming, you just have to face the truth. which is that those two people are horrendous individuals who have their self-interest in mind a lot of the times and also just seem to be motivated by pure evil at other times.

And that's that's I mean that's a strong statement, right? But Bill Clinton in the Oval Office was bringing in essentially hookers. I mean I mean I mean maybe you wouldn't call them hookers, but he was bringing in women we know about. Monica Lewinsky There was many more. Obviously, like we're not stupid anyone who's bringing in women to the Oval Office when you have a wife that's also living in that same house and getting caught and then lying boldface about it.

Obviously, there's so much more under the covers pun intended than then then what we're being told: I that's like the photo of Bill sitting at the Oval Office picture theal office. They're two people in this photo. It's funny, right? but but it's also horrific. I Mean we're talking about with Epstein proven over and over and over again through these documents and and through what? what's been investigated? These are underage girls.

It's not people over the age of 18. I mean you can say oh, he's a bad person if it's over the age of 18 when it becomes under the age of 18 when you're talking about children, that goes from bad person to truly evil despicable person. and if you don't think with all the fights he took on Epstein's plane, if you don't think with all the already sexual drama surrounding him that he was not engaged at all in that if when he's trying to silence the media I mean connect the dots right? I mean it's it's it's I believe he was part of it Hillary obviously was in on it, knew everything along the way. she was named as a witness in the documents along with other people even being named as a witness.

I Mean that's that's right there. Scary stuff. I Mean that she saw things happen that were bad and helped to cover them up. Whether it's threats, violence, whatever it is, that's scary stuff.

And thank God she wasn't the president of the United States that would have been it would have been awful I mean would she have been better than Biden On a policy level, who knows he's so awful I mean I Feel like anyone would, but but still? I mean on on a social level, the things she would have done. the damage she would have caused would have been irreputable. She would have destroyed the United States Wow, more than people thought she would have been like a continuation of Barack Obama Did did you think that would be different then? Um huh? I Guess that also depends on if you like OB I mean maybe on a policy level some of the things would have been similar. There would have been more War Uh, there would have been more solely on the level of causing conflict on a global scale.

I Think there would it would have been worse I Think we would have had less less stability, less safety. Hillary Clinton is one of the most evil people that's ever walked the face of the planet. so I Putting her in that position would would be it would be a suicide. It would be awful.

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So interesting that uh, you know we didn't have a Russia invasion during the previous uh uh election Cycles here or uh, the is counter attack to the Hamas attack as severe under a previous Republican president. That is something that's been coming up a lot. Do you think that is just a coincidence? Or do you think that's potentially because of the nature of the way uh Trump's Oval Office operated versus say Biden yeah I That's a good question at the end of the day: Putin Is he's human right? He's going to make mistakes. He's going to make decisions.

uh, that often times go against the best interest of of his country. I Don't think it was the the smart move to do that. I I Think uh, he shouldn't have done that right. But at the end of the day if Trump was in office, it wouldn't have happened.

He he had the enough respect and enough fear, healthy fear that he wouldn't have done that. He didn't do it. There's a reason why Trump is one of the least War presidents we've ever had in the history of of the country. and uh, that is because of the way he led and the way he talked to people.

And and I mean look at him on the appr this like he he knows what he he he's He does a good job of talking to people. He does a good job afraid of yeah I mean you're fir you're fired, you're nuked. who's next? I I actually before I think was like 2014 I don't remember exactly the year but it was a good bit before Trump even announced he was going to run for office I watched The Apprentice and I said that guy's going to be president. oh wow that if that guy I feel like that I could be a good president and uh he was actually he I feel like the Trump from then would have been an even better president because he was even I don't know I feel like he was even better back then they feel like different people I will say they feel like very different weird like I I don't know he still did a good job right? but I feel like I feel like hopefully Trump will be his old self again I think a lot of people who were influencing him in in the wrong way threw him off his first term for so many things.

his second term I feel like he'll be his old self hopefully again and if he is, it's going to be tremendous for the country. So you think it wasn't so much a trump issue term one, it was more his staff. Oh I mean that was a huge part of it. and and I'm not gonna let Trump off the hook either.

Sure I mean he he let them influence him. he hired them right. He could have done better. and uh, and one of the reasons it's important to say that is because he needs to make sure and I'm going to be pushing for this I'm going to be trying to influence it to the degree I Can he needs to make sure that if he does win again, when he wins again, he'll do a better job.

Wow. Uh, do you think he committed an Insurrection on J6? That's that's no. I I I I think uh, not even close. I mean not.

he didn't commit an insruction anymore than uh Bernie Sanders caused people to get shot at at the baseball game you can't control First of all, what other people do. And it wasn't an Insurrection. In fact, it was significantly less intense than what we saw with the BLM riots for way longer of a period of time with way more people losing their lives compared to really one. And it was one of the people who was entering the capital there.

Ashley Babbit reference Ashley Babbit. Yep, they at first it like there were some people there who were like acting kind of crazy, right? but after that point had broken through. Once they were inside the capital building, people said for example, that there was, uh, bodily fluids that were spread on the capital. There wasn't.

There's no proof of that. No one's ever shown evidence of that. People said that they were calling officers racial slurs. Again, with all the video, all the cameras, all the people taking their own footage, not a single bit of evidence that that ever happened.

not even a credible witness saying it did So they obviously they lied about it in in a huge way. It is so bizarre because I I remember covering the Insurrection live it was uh what? one of my longest live streams. like 10 hours long or something like that it was. It was scary to watch.

It was very scary to watch from the perspective that we they should exactly and and then seeing over time some of the Uh ceiling footage come out of people walking down the hallway with some of the officers and the officers are opening doors for them. It I felt like I was watching two different worlds. Like what I saw on that day was very different from what I see in the surveillance footage and it's it's very conflicting. It's like how do you reconcile that and the other point is if Trump wanted to try to overthrow the government I don't think he could succeed no matter what that's I mean that's a extremely difficult task that no one for certifying the election and his argument is that uh as I know you know.

but for viewers to remember is uh that that Pence could have stopped the certification should Pence have stopped the certification I mean at the end of the day I Think the most important thing was to have it in a position where they're not allowed to cheat, Where they're not allowed to change the mailon ballots, you should have done it beforehand. You shouldn't wait till after you you they they needed to stop the cheating from happening before. Once you've already let them do it. If you play a pickup basketball game and someone's fing you the whole game and you say afterwards, well, you found me the whole game you didn't win like you have to call it at the beginning.

that's what I think should have happened. Um, do you think there was significant amount of election fraud in the last election? Define fraud I mean yeah, there's a lot of manipulation. Let's let's just put it that way. there's a lot of I I think they didn't necessarily Break The Rules right.

But they change the rules so that they could do that without breaking. So I'm not going to rule it out. I I I Could certainly see there is a lot of evidence that it may have happened. Um, I'm not going to roll out at all.

But at the end of the day, if Trump really wanted to overthrow the government, he's not a a murder you have. You would have to take people's lives to do that you can't over. No overthrowing of a government has ever happened without a lot of people in positions of power losing their life in order for that to happen, or being thrown in prison. losing their life has to be all of that.

Trump doesn't have the capability to murder people or even order other people to do so in that capacity. He he. he would never do that. He if he really wanted to, he could have tried a significantly by magnitude of like a 100 times more intense effort to do that.

He didn't actually try to overthrow the government. and I I mean could he handled some things better? Sure. But at the end of the day, the way the media is portraying it even still at this point is ridiculous. And and it's it's and only because they want to use that to try to get votes in the next election.

That's it. That's their motivation you've commented about Bill Gates using AI to try to interfere with elections around the world. This year, that's going to happen. He's going to do it.

Could you elaborate on that and then also mention if that's going to happen in the United States or just in foreign countries? Oh oh, it's going to happen in in multiple countries. And and I mean I Hope the capabilities aren't aren't strong enough yet. We don't know a lot of what's really happening behind the scenes. With AI it's probably scarier than we even know according.

Elon Musk is warning about it, but they can easily propagandize millions of people using AI they can Target you based on specific things that can emotionally trigger you. and and that's already happened a lot even without AI But with AI the capability to do that is scary. and so his ability to manipulate people even just like you don't it's not even a conspiracy theory. Look at who he's funding.

He's giving millions and millions and hundreds of millions of dollars to these media groups that are already trying to propagandize people. They're using AI more and more to Target specific emotional traits in people. So so even even without having like you I think it's way worse than we're even able to see right now based on multiple factors. But even without that, if you just look at what you can clearly see in plain day, he's already using AI in a way to manipulate elections and and so it's that needs to be stopped.

I mean well, it's almost like identifying the what is AI is is one of the challenges. Uh, and so I think there was even one tweet from uh you? it was, um, do you support her message? It was this one with uh, the basically a girl in in a track outfit. here it looks like and then uh, the text not a dude which is interesting. it's funny Got noted Yeah, it's apparently it's not, it's not.

Apparently it was AI I didn't know I thought it was real and I actually thought it was like okay, like there are a lot of women who are actually supporting this message right now because you know women don't believe it's fair to have to fight it I think it was just the boxing League or one one of the boxing uh uh groups that is is now allowing uh uh, male born, uh, transgender women to box biological females and so this is like the the counterrevolution to that. Uh so. But but I had no idea that was AI it's it's it's amazing. It's it's incredible.

So what? Like how do we solve that? like how do we trust anything anymore? Yeah, I mean it's it's There are some technologies that allow you to do that, but that's the thing. It's going to be hard to trust anything and and uh, another thing I'll say is that when it come I want to speak on this just briefly? we go back to AI But yeah, right now I Think parents need to step up. There's a lot of parents who are sitting on the sidelines and if their daughter is forced to compete against people who have significant advantage of them because they were born as a male, right? That's not fair. I have a daughter I Hope she's going to like sports I Like sports I I think I'm sure she'll enjoy them Maybe not maybe she will, we'll see.

but if she has to compete in that capacity against someone who's born as as a male, I will run on that field I will I Am not going to be okay with that I will not sit on the sidelines and watch her be discriminated against like that. And the way you know these people really just want to hurt our culture and hurt women is because they're not pushing for a separate league for people. They want them to compete with women. Why is that so odd to think that there should just be a separate League like hey, if you were born a male and now you're taking hormone replacement or whatever and and you want to be a identify as a female or be a female whatever.

uh have a separate league and well the thing is I think a lot of a lot of the people who are doing this wouldn't get that same feeling like they probably. they probably get like a sick pleasure out of beating women I'm sure a lot of them do and I don't think they would get that same feeling like they're like haha like it's like it's disgusting that people are allowing that to happen and if there's a separate League it probably I mean first of all, no one watch it like I mean it like why would anyone watch that? It's it's not going to be entertaining really I mean it's It's not going to be the best athletes of of in any capacity. Just statistically speaking, it's almost impossible to happen like for example, like the the swimmer Leo Thomas however you say her name, she or he, what. Whatever you want to say right? Sure they they were.

When it came to the men's meet, they were really low down right in the hundreds. like really bad men's meat. To be clear, competi competing against men. No chance competing against women.

Now you're number one. So like if there was a separate League it wouldn't be very entertaining. So I don't know I I I that's the only solution that would not require. Uh I mean you can't have women having to compete against people born so you have to do something else if they want to do that.

I Don't care. Go do it. but you can't have that. It is interesting.

I have uh, you know I've now, uh, two, uh, two twin girls. they're two and a half months old. It almost feels like how things are now. Do I even encourage them to go into sports? You know it's kind of like uh, who was it Gary vaynerchuk he says why would I get into politics if I know I can't win the game because he wasn't born in America So he said well I can't be president So why bother at all? Could that same thing be happening to women now who are already of competing age across the country? Who say you know what? Why bother if I can't win because I wasn't born a man who's identifying as a woman I I don't know it Then of course the counterargument is: well, men who are transitioning are meeting certain biological thresholds based on hormone levels or whatever and so should they therefore then be qualified or eligible.

I Don't know what do you think about all that. Yeah, I mean that's interesting point. I Would say no one should leave their daughter out of sports. fight, fight, fight.

They want to win. and by whenn they want to destroy our culture, They want to replace it with a religion of wokeness. That's their goal. and if we allow them to win without fighting, then they're going to make it even worse.

After that, it's it's it's at the point now where it's really our last chance to kind of save the United States in the capacity that that it's been in the past, where it's been an awesome country where you want to live. If if we don't save it now, it won't happen. So fight for it. You know that's that's what that's what I would say to anyone out there who has a daughter and is worried about that.

Got it? And uh, do you think immigration now? clearly we've got a border crisis. Is this amplifying the problem that we face in America Oh, I Mean it's It's massively amplifying it when you look. Right now there are more. This is an important stat.

You can't argue against this. It's around six times as many illegal immigrants coming in per month than under President Trump Even for some of his worst uh, months, in terms of illegal immigration, there are more people consistently coming in per month illegally than there are births of citizens of the United States This is like the the Encounters uh statistic IC right? births versus encounters I mean how they measure it. Also, yeah, they could be underestimating. It's so interesting how they they came up with the phrase encounters during Covid which was while Trump was still president and there was a spike right after Biden came in.

we were looking at that. we thought this is so interesting. Uh I think uh Trump was actually campaigning on the idea that if Biden wins, there'll be a a surge of of migrants who attempt to come to the borders. Million uh, and uh, we just had this summer.

I Think it was either the end of June or end of July Uh, over 400,000 Venezuelans who came here were granted amnesty, which is probably twice the actual number since more people are probably applying suggesting they were here. so it's probably an understated number and the reality is actually higher. Do you think that all of those individuals should just be sent back? Or how well how do you? How do you handle it? I Mean is there anything else? do I want to do that? No. I mean Is that the only way to potentially solve it? Probably like, what else can you do? you can't if you look at right now.

many countries in South America There's a lot of awesome countries there like that that are cool. Maybe You' enjoy living there, but they're different than the United States Lot poor. A lot of them are poor. There's a lot more corruption.

Often times there's a lot more crime. There's a lot of things about them that are very different. A lot of those things are in negative ways and if our country just becomes an extension of South America it will be different. and I don't think it will be a difference that most people who like the United States as it is Will enjoy.

If because if they did they would move there they would go to those countries. and so it's it's It's scary that we may be forced to completely have our our our country change forever and not be able to do anything about it. and the more it changes the easier it is to keep changing it because if you do come over illegally you're going to be okay with more people coming sometimes. I me I Hope that changes and there are some people who came over illegally and like oh I don't want any more people coming like we're we're good now but uh or people who came legally and say I don't want people coming illegally because that's not fair I Wait right? So there's there's those things.

But at some point you have to say only have if you can have talented people coming, you can have a fair amount coming in each year. But if there keeps being this many legal immigrants, you're going to have to shut down legal immigration too. And try to shut down legal immigration just to try to catch up with deporting A lot of the people who are here Is that is that nice to do? No. Do I want to be in a situation where you have to deport people? No.

I mean those are people who are acting their own best interest. Many of us, if we were them, probably would do the same thing right. Smart to do that if you're them, but that still doesn't make it okay. I Think if you live in a country in South America make your country better, you can do that.

Become an Obis of power, take away some of the corruption, help to stimulate the economy. There are things you can do there. Don't give up on your country and come to someone else's country. CH Like Javier Malay Just give everyone here.

We go. We'll give every single person everyone gets a chance. Send Oprah down there. Chance don't send her down there.

That's actually kind of scary. but uh, do you think legal immigration is too difficult should be made easier? Do you think it's too easy, should be made more difficult? Or do you think it's right where it needs to be? That's that's a good. That's a good point. I Mean probably a little bit.

I Mean ideally in a perfect world, you would have people from all different cultures coming to the United States at a very small level that doesn't change the culture of the United States but allows us to see you know new people and and new ideas and and that can be very healthy. I Think it should be less than it is now, especially because of the amount of legal immigrants who have already come in like you at some point you have to say, right? Like we can't sustain this, even property values for example that's impacted pretty pretty substantially I Mean people should be able to afford a start a home they can't right now, very few people can. What do you think about that? Is that going to require sort of the great reset of where you get this dollar collapse and everybody has a chance. Maybe to buy again because we have massive deflation and joblessness? Or what does it take to actually get to that affordability again? Do people just need to make more money? Yeah, I mean and part of it too is the look at houses.

I Mean people have higher quality of life in our homes. Now we have better appliances. so I mean there's it has to be a little bit more expensive right to Have all this technology all the luxuries that we have, but it's gone up like 500% compared to where it should be if you just followed the chart from from before like the 1950s so it has to crash. I mean you can't sustain that.

The only thing stopping you from crashing now in my opinion and you may know more about this than me. You're like real estate expert, right? Oh so. But but uh, in my opinion, one of the only things stopping it from crashing is uh, right now it costs a lot to build. So I think if more people can build cheaper then we'll probably see the housing market as a whole crashing a substantial amount.

if not fast, then at least a slow gradual decline which're midd now right? Okay, that could I mean what do you think? Do you think it's going to be a big crash? or do you think it'll be a slow I mean I I I Agree with you is that the the core problem is there are just a lack of homes where people have jobs, jobs and then you look at a state like California where I mean you're you're almost buying real estate in California is almost protected from going down in Valley because they build so little. This one of the things when I ran for governor I thought we we need to build more like streamline the permitting. uh so so and they could be in even areas outside of the large uh cities. but streamlining building is is absolutely key.

You you're seeing that in areas like Texas and Vegas and you're seeing uh uh prices actually slowly come down a little bit because of that. So uh, you might be exactly right. Yeah, it's interesting I mean I I know I Don't you built one of the one of the most like awesome bu I mean awesome. Maybe you could use that word to describe you built an awesome business like you I don't know.

Do you think you could have done that today? Like could you have started from the ground and built what you built as successfully as fast as you did it? I mean now I think everything takes longer I think yeah, it's uh, a lot more. There'd be a lot more patience required now, especially everything is so much more expensive now. uh and I I I Don't think wages have really kept up unless you now you get you almost need like an AI computer engineering job to really you know it's like yeah, make your own AI to to pay for for some of the housing you see, especially in Noral. Gosh, it's gotten expensive.

Oh it's ridiculous I mean and and also we're We're coming towards a point where the only thing that maybe could save the country is also one of the scariest things for the country which is AI and robots really taking over most of the jobs in the United States that like how does that not happen? Oh wow, self driving cars aren't far away. What about even like jobs like cooking, can