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In the aftermath of the pandemic, commercial real estate is facing an unexpected downturn. This video explores the forces shaping this scenario - from contractual obligations and increasing interest rates to the defensive stance of regional banks. We take a close look at the commercial real estate landscape and discuss the potential implications of a staggering $1.5 trillion of debt due for refinancing.
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5:26 - 8:36 Problems for landlords
8:37 Regional banks

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Foreign, most white-collar workers were forced to start working from home. One of the worst hit sectors of the economy was commercial Real Estate. specifically. Office Buildings With people working from home, thousands of them were sitting empty.

Despite this, companies had long-term lease contracts, so they were still forced to pay rent. So commercial landlords actually did okay during 2020 and 2021. With the pandemic now behind, Us, companies are gradually forcing their employees to return to the office for most days out of the week. This should be great news for landlords as a means, the work from home era is finally coming to an end.

Despite this apparent Tailwind commercial property stocks have been suffering catastrophic losses if you look at the biggest office landlords in the U.S almost all of their share prices have declined below their trough levels at the peak of the pandemic. Publicly traded real estate holding companies are called real Estate investment Trusts or REITs For short, how is this possible? Shouldn't these REITs be recovering now that employees are returning to the office. There are two problems. Firstly, most companies sign multi-year tenancy contract tracks that cannot be broken without significant penalties.

Many companies want to stop renting in 2020, but they had to wait until their lease is expired, which is happening now. Secondly, real estate is expensive because of this. REITs tend to take on huge loans to buy properties like Office Buildings with the Federal Reserve hiking interest rates REITs will have to refinance their loans at higher rates at the same time that their rental revenue is under pressure. As if all these headwinds weren't enough, the banking crisis we've seen since March has put Regional banks in a defensive stance, making it even harder for REITs to refinance their loans.

According to Morgan Stanley, one and a half trillion dollars of commercial real estate debt is coming due, which could lead to a wave of defaults across the sector. With commercial real estate being a multi-trillion dollar market, this has a potential to cause a severe recession. In this video, we'll take a deep dive into the commercial real estate sector to see just how dire the situation is. Foreign: The pandemic created a forced experiment where almost all workers who could work from home were forced to and with new tools like Slack and Zoom, many companies were pleasantly surprised that white-collar workers could do just about everything they did at the office.

from the safety of their homes. there are a few major benefits to working from home. Firstly, workers don't have to waste time on long commutes to the office. Secondly, many companies are located in large cities with expensive real estate and high taxes.

Because of the High Cost of Living, they're forced to pay their workers very high wages. with work from home. Companies can hire people living in Suburban or rural areas where the cost of living is much lower. This will allow them to get away with paying far lower gross wages.
And finally, if all employees are working from home, there is no need to rent an expensive office building in a large city. In 2020 and 2021, many companies announced that they would continue work from home policies even after the pandemic. For example, in 2020, Mark Zuckerberg said that working from home makes him more productive and he would allow most employees to work from home indefinitely. It wasn't just Facebook many companies announced that they would never require workers to return to the office, but over time it became clear that this may have been a mistake.

While it is theoretically possible for a lot of jobs to be done fully remotely, there are far more distractions and far less accountability. It is very difficult to quantify the effect of remote work on productivity. So the best proxy is the performance of students who have to take standardized exams when students were forced to take classes remotely. Academic achievement decreased substantially in 2022.

4 and 10 8th graders across the U.S failed to grasp basic math concepts, which represents a 30-year low in New York which was hit especially hard by the pandemic. The state decreased minimum proficiency scores. Otherwise, the number of students flunking would be catastrophic. While it's technically possible to study remotely, many kids lack the discipline to listen to lectures for hours on end when they could easily play video games without anyone noticing.

While adults should have greater discipline than kids, they too are not immune from slacking off when their bosses and co-workers can't see them By the end of 20 A20, and especially since the beginning of 2023, more and more companies are changing their tune on work from home policies and a 180 degree U-turn Zuckerberg Said that workers get more done when they are physically in the office and Meta is currently evaluating return to Office requirements. Meta has been monitoring the quantity and quality of their employees work output and found that workers who come into the office perform better on average. Amazon Apple Disney Goldman Sachs and Salesforce have all recently announced return to the Office requirements just to name a few. According to a recent study from Resume Builder, 90 of companies are planning to require their employees to return to the office for at least some days per week.

In 2023, the return to the office is real and we don't have to rely on surveys or estimates to measure its magnitude. There's a company called Castle Systems which makes the electronic card readers workers use to enter Office Buildings by looking at the number of swipes on their card readers. Castle knows exactly how many workers are physically coming into the office. They show that in April of 2020, the number of card swipes increase your trough of 15 of pre-covered levels.
Since then, it has gradually been recovering. As of May 2022, this has increased to 50 percent of pre-covered levels. The recovery looks highly encouraging for the industry. So why is it the case that office rates are continuing to decline in value even below their pandemic lows? Foreign to data compiled by Axios, the vacancy rate for Office Buildings has been increasing consistently since the beginning of the pandemic.

It currently sits at 13, which is even higher than the peak of the 2008 Global financial crisis. This completely contradicts the recovery that we've seen in the Castle card swipe data. So how can this be the case? It's because they're measuring different things. A landlord doesn't care how many workers come into the office, they just care how many floors they can rent.

The vacancy rate is a square footage of the building that is not being rented, divided by the total number of square feet in the building. Let's say you own an office building with two floors. There are five seats on each floor for 10 seats. In total, you have one tenant who has 10 employees.

so they fill up the entire building, giving you a 100 occupancy rating. During the pandemic, all 10 employees are forced to work from home, so the percentage of seats filled decreases to zero percent. but the tenant signed a long-term lease so they have to continue paying rent despite the fact that the building is empty so your occupancy rate is still 100 percent. In 20 23, the lease finally ends.

Your tenant has a new hybrid working arrangement, so their employees come to the office half of the days and work from home on the other half. On any given day, only five employees will come to the office, So the tenant renews the lease, but only rents one floor instead of two. As a landlord, your occupancy rate and Rental Revenue declined by 50 percent. We know that workers are more productive when they come into the office, but if the workers come to the office three days a week, this is often good enough to maintain a sense of accountability and develop professional relationships with their colleagues.

Many companies come to a compromised solution of hybrid work, which still requires office space, but far less than before. The main expenses of operating an office building are interest expense and property taxes. These expenses are fixed regardless of the occupancy rate. To make matters worse, office reads are also seeing their interest expense increase as they have to refinance their debt at higher rates.

This is creating a situation where for some Office Buildings the rental revenue is not enough to cover the interest expense. In the first half of the year, the massive of Real Estate Investment Company Brookfield defaulted on hundreds of millions of dollars of loans tied to Office Buildings in La including the iconic 52-story 777. Tower This past February A giant Reed called Columbia defaulted on almost 2 billion dollars of loans tied to office buildings in New York San Francisco and Boston The New York-based Real Estate fund Rxr Realty currently plans on defaulting on loans tied to 10 percent of its New York City Office Buildings The good thing is that these loans are non-recorders The reason these funds are defaulting is because these buildings have low occupancy and their values have decreased. The value of the property is now less than the mortgage.
Even if they had cash on hand to make the interest payments, they're better off defaulting and handing the keys over to their lenders. to the extent that the building is worth less than the mortgage. The lender eats the loss. Brookfield claims that 95 percent of their real estate is high quality buildings, which they can easily rent for high rates.

They are intentionally defaulting on the worst five percent of their property portfolio because they believe that the value of these properties has declined. Given that the loans are non-recours The biggest losers from this property crash may be the bangs and this problem could not have come at a worse time. Rising Defaults in the commercial real estate sector could have a particularly disastrous effect on Regional Banks Regional Banks Prefer making commercial real estate loans because they have significant expertise about the local real estate market in relationships with local landlords. Large National Banks Lack the Deep expertise in the communities they operate in.

They don't know which parts of a given City are up and coming and which parts are in decline. Because of this, they prefer things like single-family mortgages or Consumer loans which are far more standardized, only requiring a credit score and income verification. Or they'll give loans to large multinational corporations which are usually not tied to real estate according to an analysis by JP Morgan commercial real estate loans make up 29 percent of Regional Bank assets, compared to less than seven percent for big Banks Regional Banks have also faced deposit outflows and higher funding costs due to the failures of Silicon Valley Bank and First Republic earlier this year. If we see the trend of Office billing defaults continue, this could prove disastrous for regional Banks.

However, there are a few reasons to be optimistic. The the broad category of commercial real estate includes Office Buildings multi-family apartment buildings, shopping malls, and Industrial facilities. Office Buildings only make up an estimated 25 percent of total commercial real estate in the U.S So, while commercial real estate loans make up 29 of Regional Bank Assets Office Billing loans likely only make up around seven percent other than office, the other categories of commercial real estate are all doing well according to data compiled by JP Morgan. Residential, retail and Industrial real estate all have vacancy rates at or below pre-coveted levels.
So while office rate defaults is certainly a concern, it is unlikely to be catastrophic. Alright guys, that wraps it up for this video. What do you think about the office building? Market Let us know in the comments section below. As always, thank you so much for watching and we'll see in the next one.

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29 thoughts on “Commercial real estate – the $1.5 trillion ticking time bomb”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars rebel1608 says:

    I'm sorry but student performance is not at all a proxy for adults working from home because they are children. Its not a valid comparison in any way.

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars American Boy says:

    The best Call of Duty game ever made which is called battle bit was developed by people who were working in the same place a dance to growing like a weed they don't need office space and they make millions of dollars they had the funding of nothing they did not have to buy an office to back the game you can work with people across the world you don't even have to drive your cars you say by Electric engines then about this lepers work from home

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars American Boy says:

    The reason why if workers have to go back to the office is kids who do not want to go to school in the first place playing video games what a pile of garbage a bunch of these kids would fail in a heartbeat and then work at McDonald's for the rest of their life or do drugs they're not professional workers who care about their work.

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Fror Firebasher says:

    If your workers aren't doing anything without someone looking over their shoulder, you're doing something wrong.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Raghu Gundlapalli says:

    Cities make majority of their revenue from commercial Realestate taxes & income taxes.
    Employees traveling to work buy gas, buy food for lunch.
    We are spending money & generating revenue, governments and businesses don’t want to loose that.
    This is not about productivity, this is about how they can force people to spend more money.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Brain STEM says:

    As for the commercial property owners and bankers, I feel sorry for them. But it's just one more example of how over-leveredged everyone is. Individuals and companies are carrying to much debt.

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Brain STEM says:

    You nailed the productivity problem when you said "lack the self-discipline."

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Brain STEM says:

    Looking at it logically, the company saves money because the offices are empty. Lower maintenance expenses. Lights are off, computers are off, less cleaning required, less office supplies, etc. The ONLY expense is paying the rent on an empty space which they would pay for – plus much more – if the employees were in their cubes. The empty office issue is a BS ploy attempting to force employees back to the office. It's all about control. They don't like the fact that employees can't be controlled during the workday. Truthfully, slackers find a way to slack off whether they're in the office or not. It's just stupid to think otherwise. Company managers need to put on their thinking caps and develop new ways to measure performance. That's the real solution.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars NSON says:

    Productivity doesn't have anything to do with location. For me, working in an office is more distracting than home.. which I've been doing for years now. It comes down to self discipline, and the responsibility of management to held people accountable.. it's not the fault of remote work.

    And… most of the companies, like Facebook and Disney have huge office buildings (either owned or rented), of course they want people back in the office. Nothing else is the reason.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars kgowins97 says:

    I still WFH even though my job wants me to go in office locally even though my actual department is based in another state . So I won’t come in unless they pay more to commute 90+ minutes each day to sit in a cubicle by myself

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Parrish says:

    Asking a real estate agent whether you should buy a home right now is like to asking an alcoholic whether they think you should have a drink lol. Homes in my neighborhood that cost around $450k in sales in 2019 are now going for $800 to $950k. Every seller in my neighborhood is currently making a $350k profit. Simply unreal. In all honesty, deflation is what we require. The only other option is for many people to go bankrupt, which would also be bad for the economy. That is the only way to return to normal.

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Colin Kay says:

    We care about Real Estate Investment Trusts? Hell no. Working from home is very sensible. Covid got us out of The Matrix.

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jake Stoll says:

    This one was inherently flawed, generally your alright but this one lacks a fundenental understanding and appeals to hard to the anti-wfh crowd

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Fish Santiago says:

    Going into office = at risk of fake rape allegations

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Fish Santiago says:

    "return to office" is cancer any anybody pushing it is cancer.

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars eegernades says:

    This video sounds like propaganda for return to the office. Particularly from these property owners.

    Especially so when you read up that company profits have continued to climb and worker efficiency has increased.

    We'll continue to push for remote thank you.

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Demo Videos says:

    Most remote work is unproductive BS misses the fact that every single high productivity tech and banking company has had over 50% remote workers since at least 2001. High skilled workers are spread across time zones in different countries and it enables access to the best talent. Even if people were forced to return to office, can companies guarantee that they would not spend most of their day on Zoom / Slack anyway with team members in an office in a different city?

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ron Jon says:

    Many comments have pointed out a desire to convert office to residential. WSM, could you do a presentation on this? Affordable housing is getting difficult to find, as in, for example, the Phoenix area, but would it even be tenable to convert properties in office parks zoned for commercial purposes into housing?

    It seems like it should be common sense to repurpose empty buildings, but bureaucracies and regulators don’t appear to operate that way.

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Cole Symans says:

    Suprised that you didnt mention the impact that rising interest rates is having on commercial real estate where a lot of firms are taking losses because of floating interest rate loans or are on shorter term mortgages and in a pinch where they cant refinance into a higher interest rate loan

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars DaedalusRunner says:

    Why does a channel that always talks about wall street and US financial, keep showing stock videos of Vancouver Canada lol

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars RandomStuff-01 says:

    Good video. Thanks. toronto canada.
    Your videos are so good that I let the ads play through. Usually I would skip the ads. or adblock.

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars hi im justin says:

    I moved from the city to a smaller town thanks to WFH. The economics of living in a city and commuting just don't make sense if you don't have to.

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jessy B says:

    What the actual fuck… workers are more productive from HOME. The data is clear. Stop lying for corporate landlords!!

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jeff Gilligan says:

    I used to often work from home, and got less done than when I was in the office. Really annoying was a call I made to a state agency during COVID. The person who answered was "working" from home. You could tell she was annoyed to be bothered. Then there was an interruption from one of her kids and I was put on hold.

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Andrew Obrien says:

    First, your argument that productivity can't be quantifiable is ridiculous. It absolutely can and there are multiple tools that accomplish this such as Jira and even a basic excel spreadsheet with a project name, summary of project goals, date/time when project was started, hours that were needed to complete the project, quality of result, date/time when project ended. It is that simple. Probably the simplest in history.
    But to say productivity can't be quantified is bull.
    Second, you equating children studying remote to adult workers in remote work is very telling. You clearly see anyone working under you as a fucking child in order for this analogy to work.
    Kids aren't self-starters and have limited attention spans. Remote works for people who are self-starter as a lot of responsibility is put onto you. Also, adults have careers to think about and bills to pay. Finally, so bringing people in office will magically make workers never screw off again? If you believe that, then I have a bridge to sell you while I'm peeing on your leg.
    The studies they have done comparing productivity between in person and remote work showed that productivity went DOWN when they went back to the office.

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars hewhoknowseverything says:

    Comparing students and workers for jobs is stupid. One is paid for their work the other is paying 🤦

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Marco Turetta says:

    The comparison with student exams and study doesn’t hold with actual work tasks. In my company we achieved a minimum of 32% increase in productivity when working from home.

  28. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Tampabay Rodeo says:

    I'm having a bad year; SBUX is down by $40k, ALLP is down by $35k, Draft Kings is down by $6k, NIO is down by $15K, ABML is down by $8K, and my husband is unaware. I'm only clinging to Jim Cramer's advice regarding opportunities during erratic market conditions in the hopes that I can either wait for a recovery or choose profitable investments to make up for my loss.

  29. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Craig says:

    Working from home means I don't have to be distracted by three coworkers cramming into the next cubicle to gossip about football for 10 hours per week.

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