Cathie Wood recently gave an interview to Bloomberg discussing why she bought back positions in some Chinese stocks. In this video we go over her interview and discuss the outlook for Chinese stocks going forward.
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What's up guys and welcome back to wall street millennial on this channel, we cover everything related to stocks and investing about a month ago, kathy woods, arkan vest dumped all of their holdings of chinese stocks. At the time she said, the unpredictable regulatory environment in china makes u.s stocks more attractive on a relative basis. In the past few days, they've made something of a u-turn and started buying shares of jd.com and other chinese companies, but importantly, she is being very selective about which chinese stocks she buys picking individual companies that are at less risk of regulatory crackdown. She recently gave an interview on bloomberg explaining her rationale in this video, we'll go over what she said and whether this could spell the end for the chinese bear market of the past few months.
Keep in mind that we are not financial advisors, and this is for entertainment purposes, only make sure do your own research and consult with a professional before making any investment decision. So we had been pulling out of china um. We started last november. Actually, after uh after the uh debacle around the ant group, ipo and really the banishment, it seems of jack ma, and we saw increasing uh increasing signs that the government was going to get tough on on companies.
Uh. We didn't know exac and and companies which were more than unicorns, they had exploded onto the scene and they were had become so powerful, as had their leaders that they almost seemed to be threatening the government. At least that seemed to be our take on the government's response, so we were a bit cautious pulled away and in fact our flagship fund has moved out of most chinese stocks. I think we were out probably uh late april late may somewhere around there.
It might have been a little bit later, uh gradually, you never know uh 100 of the time i think the online education um really nationalization there was was a v, a real valuation killer for the market. So i think that the market's going to be under pressure from a valuation point of view uh from a lot for a long time now, because that that sort of thing was so unexpected uh, even even from those of us who saw the the government tightening its Grip uh on on the country uh, so, but what we have done, we did uh after this last uh bloodbath in the stocks uh we did uh, try and sort through. Okay, which companies are uh, are doing things the government likes right and what we're seeing are those that are catering to tier three tier four cities. Logistics, groceries, so you've seen us by jd.com jd logistics is a big part of jd.com.
I think they own 70 of it uh, so that's probably been our biggest purchase as well as some pin duo do for the same reason. But if you were to look at what we were doing in those portfolios, we were really swapping them out of other names that we think uh are are going to be continue to be in harm's way, or certainly under government pressure. Uh like the alibaba's, for example. She says china is not uninvestable, but you want to own companies that align with the government's long-term development goals in a communist country like china, it's extremely important to invest on the side of the government. One of china's key policy priorities is to increase development of so-called tier 3 and tier 4 cities, while big cities like shanghai and beijing have attained great prosperity over the past decades, many smaller cities have been left behind. This is why she recently bought shares of chinese e-commerce company jd.com jd is focused on expanding its logistics network to smaller cities, which will create economic development and increase access to fast delivery. She's also buying shares in another chinese e-commerce company pinduo duo, which trades under the ticker symbol. Pdd pdd is a discount ecommerce company which primarily serves poorer areas of the country.
As such, it fits in perfectly with the government's goals of creating equal development across all provinces and cities. She likes these stocks better than alibaba, which is face. Regulatory scrutiny sentiment around alibaba has been very negative ever since november of 2020, when their founder jack ma disappeared. After making a speech critical of the government, however, we view these fears as overblown jack moss dubbed down as chairman of alibaba almost two years ago and holds no official role in the company, to the extent that there are any issues between ma and the communist party.
There's no reason to believe that this would directly impact alibaba. Alibaba is the largest e-commerce company, not only in china, but in the entire world. It's more than twice the size of amazon. As measured by gross merchandise value.
They will likely face antitrust scrutiny in the future. As will amazon and every other mega cap tech giant, but they have long been the backbone of china's economic development and are investing heavily in underdeveloped regions across the country. An example of companies that do not align with the government schools are for-profit education companies. They profiteer off the educational rat race without creating any real value for society.
Well, if you think about what china's doing they're doing many of the same things, our own government and other governments around the world are doing uh. You know they're. Most governments are concerned about uh data, privacy, uh, national security and even even concerned uh in some ways about the impact of social media on students and so forth, so uh, but we just haven't. We don't have the kind of central centrally controlled government that can, you know, wipe those those activities and risks uh off the face of the earth as much as possible.
That's just not who we are most of the issues around data privacy and anti-monopoly that china is cracking down on also exist in western countries. All the big tech companies in the us are facing regulatory scrutiny of one form or another investors are willing to overlook this and bid up u.s tech stocks to record valuations. Facebook recently surpassed a 1 trillion market cap joining apple, microsoft and google. The key difference in china is that the communist government is much more powerful and can act much more quickly than their western counterparts, but the problems they are trying to solve are not fundamentally different from those in the us. One of the reasons this may be going on now is uh. China saw what the trump administration was like, and the biden administration has been just as tough in some ways, but perhaps not as tough as a a a more conservative or hawkish administration would have been around hong kong, and so we've got the midterm elections uh in November next year, so this is their window to do what they want to do, because i do believe they're not that they're feeling like um. This is a little bit of a window, and if the more hawkish administration gets in later, then you know they will have want to have done whatever it is. It's possible.
The chinese government is taking advantage of the biden administration's perceived dovishness to crack down on u.s listed chinese companies. Now this could explain why the crackdowns are happening so rapidly, seemingly out of nowhere. If this is the case, it would be very positive for chinese stocks going forward. This would indicate the chinese government is just trying to do all the crackdowns now to get them out of the way.
Thus, they do not represent a fundamental shift in their policy of economic liberalization, which they have enacted since the early days of deng xiaoping. In conclusion, chinese stocks are still investable and the chinese economy continues to grow rapidly. As hundreds of millions of chinese consumers enter the middle class over the coming years. There is tremendous opportunity for chinese companies to experience massive growth and generate returns for investors, but you have to be extremely careful and make sure that you're investing on the right side of the government's policy goals in a country like china, you can't fight town hall.
Of course, there's always risk, and this is the nature of investing, but when sentiment is the most negative and risk is perceived as being the greatest, this is when generational buying opportunities are created. It's easy to be bullish when the market is bullish and bearish, when the market is bearish, it's much harder to be a contrarian and by the dip when everyone else is selling it's even harder to be contrarian and be right. Only time will tell if kathy wood is making the right call by buying the dip on chinese stocks, alright, guys that wraps it up for this video. What do you think about kathy wood going back into chinese stocks? Let us know in the comments section below, if you enjoyed this content, make sure to hit the like button and subscribe. So you don't miss future uploads as always. Thank you so much for watching and we'll see you in the next one wall, street millennial, signing out.
i always feel bad for her daughter….imagine meeting the mom for dinner and its cathie wood talking about cryptos, ai, genetic engineering, and space exploration. lol
China is and has been fundamentally against the economics currently making them wealthy. Any long term investment in Chinese enterprise is doomed because at some stage all Communist countries will nationalize successful enterprise and your stock will be worthless. Is that next year? Probably not. But I wouldn't even think about putting retirement funds into long term Chinese investment without a massive governmental shift
Betting that a capitalist company will thrive in a Communist nation is idiotic. The CCP bringing down anybody who threatens their power. Only braindead people with 0 IQ invest in Chinese stocks. I guarantee you the people who are bag-holding at the top will be thrilled she's buying so they can get rid of their shit shares once it pumps.
how they take advantage of dovish U.S. government by punishing their own companies? i dont quite follow. someone help me here?
It’s been said that Chinese companies have three financial accounting books. One for the Government, one for the owner’s wife, and one for the owner’s mistress. Trouble is, we never know which one we are being shown.
The economic hardship, recession, unemployment, and loss of jobs is enough to push people into financial ventures.
Coincidentally, I did the same thing as Cathie Wood. When the stock of a fundamentally sound company plunged sharply because of panic selling, it's time to buy. This was what happened in early 2020 at the start of the pandemic.
stupid then investment into prc china as they are ADR and non transparency ! Their earnings accounting are nobody can trust as real !!!
private education centers create no real value for society? you obviously don't understand the Chinese system of meritocracy my friend.
Let's not forget that up until last year Alibaba was the financial Jewel of the CCP. The CCP will always be a disruptive force to Chinese stocks. Just because certain companies are seemingly aligned with the CCP now does not mean it will be like that in the future.
"Don't invest in stock you don't understand" goes tripple for Chinese stocks if you don't understand their language/culture/politics.
WSJ -‘China plans to propose new rules that would ban companies with large amounts of sensitive consumer data from going public in the U.S., people familiar with the matter said, a move that is likely to thwart the ambitions of the country’s tech firms to list abroad.’ The VIE loophole is going to be closed off and yes, the CCP will grandfather this in to eventually include companies already listed.
From same article – ‘The new rules are likely to help Beijing exert more control over the complex corporate structure that China’s biggest tech companies use to sidestep restrictions on foreign investment. Chinese leaders consider sectors such as the internet, telecommunications and education sensitive because of political or national-security concerns.’ Doesn’t sound too bullish.
the stock market is heading for a huge iceberg. if it's not a bubble right now then bubbles simply do not exist.
Makes me wanna sell my position at a loss, just to inverse crazy Cathy Wood. I don't always agree with Michael Burry and he has been spotty as of late, but he is dead on she is lost in her own sauce. 😳 🦇💩🤪😜
Recently Chinese students are required to study “Xi Jin Ping thought “ in school. Xi is a religious communist and a Mao wannabe. He does not understand business and is trying to exert total control over all aspects of life. There is no part of the Chinese economy Xi can manage well, no part he cannot harm. His incompetence is due to his bias toward Maoist thought as a basis for management.
Chinese government changes their motives on a whim. The previous government is the one that did the privatization of the state owned companies and made tons of money, the current government, xi, wants to destroy the people who were in the old government so he is going after their companies.
It’s literally against the law in China for a foreigner to own stock in a Chinese company. If you invest in Chinese stocks you are a fool.
Ok kids, basic rules of investing: 1) the insiders are always setting you up for failure with their propaganda, so don’t follow the curated news. Always follow the fundamentals. 2) never invest in anything that is unknowable. What are the real finances of Chinese companies? No one knows and they won’t say. 3) assume it’s a scam. Not everyone is ENRON, but some companies sure do try to make it seem that way. 4) can you get your money out? Is it actually where they say it is? How is it convertible into your preferred currency? 5) do you speak the CEOs language? Does he speak yours? How do you say we might need a bailout in mandarin? 我们可能需要救助
Only morons in the west dont see an opportunity here with Chinese stocks. JD, Alibaba, Tencent, etc, will all be way bigger in 2030 than they are today. China and its biggest and best companies aren't going anywhere.
I don't buy Chinese stocks because of the time it takes to research them and understand what their goals are and how their citizens feel. I like the video it's giving me some ideas on valuation techniques.
Of course China is taking advantage of slo Joe. Just like the illegal immigrants, taliban and Russian all are. The man is a weak leader.
Unfortunately, CCP stocks have such a strong FD vibe because of potential further collapse from another whimsical wave of the regulation wand.
It looks like her perspective is a little shaky, this is a quick turn around and I can guess her investors are getting a little anxious.
A 180° within one month, even though nothing of the general situation has changed. Why are people listening to Woods again?
Investing in crypto now should be in every wise individuals list, in some months time you'll be ecstatic with the decision you made today.
not touching Chinese stocks. it's already a gamble no matter how much research you do. you gotta deal with a gov that can shut things down anytime
It's difficult for us in the west to judge these companies right. We don't speak the language, have never been there, never use the services these companies offer, we have no clue about the political winds, we cannot read the accountants reports, if something goes wrong there won't be lawsuits. It's basically something like: ecommerce is growing, this company is growing according to macrotrends, let's place a bet. I'd say that's not prudent investing.