Probably one of the biggest “Critiques” of my videos is that I’ll often assume and base my calculations off of getting an 8% return, which many find unrealistic - so here’s what I base my calculations from. Enjoy! Add me on Snapchat/Instagram: GPStephan
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One very important distinction here is that there is no such thing as a guaranteed 8% return. While we can base our returns off long term historical trends and use that as an educated guide, there will never be a bulletproof 8% return without any risk whatsoever. The other important distinction is that when we assume an 8% return, we never will see a consistent 8% return. I take the historic AVERAGE, meaning over a period of 30+ years. Short term, it’ll be much more difficult to calculate. Not financial advice, for entertainment purposes only - do your own research 😉
The first is the SP500. If we look at the historic averages of the SP500, it’s returned close to 8% adjusted for inflation with the dividends re-invested. Again, nothing is guaranteed - and it’s possible we’ll see lower or higher returns in the future, but I believe it’s reasonable to assume about an 8% return given the last 100+ years of data.
The second way you can get 8% returns, much like the above example, is individual stocks. This one is potentially MUCH risker, but with MUCH higher reward. I’d assume it to be much less passive than buying an index because you’re specifically researching a company and then monitoring that company to make sure they’re doing as well as you expected, and then maybe adjusting your position as necessary. It’s also much riskier because you have fewer eggs in your basket - unlike the SP500 where you basically have a small piece of 500 companies, when investing in individual stocks, you might only have a few - this has the potential to dramatically increase or decrease your returns.
The third way, and everyone will know as my favorite way to get an 8% return is through real estate investing. I have a trillion videos on the subject of how to make money in real estate, but your real estate returns are typically broken up into three categories: Cash return, Equity by paying down your loan, and Appreciation. Generally, getting a 8-10% return in real estate is fairly common - in fact, some people end up getting insanely higher returns depending on the area. Not only are you receiving rent, but you’re also paying down the loan - building equity, and owning an appreciating asset. Win win win!
The fourth way you can make returns of 8% or higher is through peer-to-peer lending websites like LendingClub or Prosper. This isn’t something I’ve personally done, but I know many people who have had a very good experience doing this and have averaged about 7-10%. These websites allow you to “loan” people money at set interest rates, for as low as $25 each. So far this has been fairly successful and seems to work great for people who loan money to those consolidating debt with a high income and decent credit score, but we’ve yet to see how sites like this will do during the next recession. I’m sure the returns will lower in economic turmoil, but regardless, it still seems like a fairly decent option for those willing to try it.
But the key to doing this is to always have a long term outlook. From the way I see it, the short term is too difficult to predict - but long term, we’ve got a great baseline from many decades of research behind us. And also, the longer you can hold, the lower the risk - no one knows what will be in the future, but we can certainly use the past as a guide - and this, is exactly how I figure my 8% returns. Not financial advice (Again) 😉
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32 thoughts on “How to invest for an 8% return”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars LKtube1 says:

    I've always stayed with stocks. My military friends who left houses behind at prior assignments and rent them out never talk about the cost of a new: roof, water heater, A/C unit, etc .. or the damage renters can do. Then if the renter decides not to pay .. lawyers, .. I'm OK — thru fairly safe stock investments, I've reached beyond what I ever thought possible. I'm still intrigued by real estate, but I really don't need to take the risk.

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ed Steadman says:

    You do not model your returns including inflation.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars LummyTum says:

    so… real estate beats all?

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Stuff Bud Duz says:

    I just came here from your video about how horrible peer-to-peer lending sites are. And in this vid you're recommending them. WTF?

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Coben Black says:

    The problem with this is that it all talks about averages as though an average works at all.

    Example. Start with 100 dollars, year 1 you gain 50% so you have 150 dollars. Year 2 you lose 50% so you have 75 dollars. Your average rate of return is 0, your return on investment is -25%.

    But this doesn’t just play out at a daily or weekly level, it plays out with every jump up or down.

    Sure the average return adjusted for inflation has been 8% for decades, but a decades long average of averages is less than useless.

    I’m not saying don’t invest, but you certainly shouldn’t invest if your expectation is that the 8% growth figure bears any resemblance to your expected capital growth.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Kasper De Vlieger says:

    If you have -10 percent and then 12 percent return. You will still be in the negatieve even thoughyou have a 2 percent return… or am i wrong?

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars sultan zamin says:

    Real estates kinda safer than other individuals.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Dalton Crane Vining says:

    I mean I would love to invest in real estate but where do I magically get 20,000 as a down payment? lol (Currently watching your videos and taking notes split screen) Sincerely, a 26 y/o third year pharmacy student w/ major student loan debt and absolutely zero knowledge of the stock market or investing, for now at least.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars hani badji says:

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  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars helena khatun says:

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  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Evelyn T Williams says:

    I am from Spain, my friend in Texas referred me to this channel you make a lot of sense but I do not understand anything until she referred me to a financial counselor in USA that help me to craft my portfolio and over a year we have been working together making consistent profit enough to get me a new apartment and care for parents.

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Gabriel Miranda says:

    Sorry, but real estate has been a NIGHTMARE. Running into appliance issues that negatively impact my tenants and my downstairs neighbor (I own a condo). Then when I hire licensed pros to go fix it, they end up either fixing the wrong thing or quoting the wrong thing to fix. Then I have to hire other companies for second third and fourth opinions. No one seems to know what they're doing (South FL). Meanwhile time passes with issues continuing to negatively effect neighbors (water damage). High costs and stress levels through the roof. Also, dealing with an HOA that has all but abandoned the property, never returning phone calls or emails, etc. So hard to find honest good help nowadays. WHAT TO DO????

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars James Jefferson says:

    Comment

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Bond , James - Bond says:

    Gud vdo

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Akrom Z says:

    Why don’t you open up a life time isa end of the year you get a 25% bonus

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jennifer Nicoles says:

    I was first looking for how to get into investing then after much convincing I met an expert Mr Alex Paton and things changed, with investing $40,000 I realized $32,000 in profits after 3 months. Just learn to never give up because consistency pays more.

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hamilton Reacts says:

    Can you get 5% safe return from the govt. dividens???

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Callum Cooper says:

    How come on there are diffferent types of s&p 500’s eg on trading 212 the price is £44 a share but on google is over 2k?

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars dylan says:

    Can I do this through TD Ameritrade?

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Edith Rubio says:

    Can you make a video on if it’s a good idea to open a Roth IRA right now please

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Segal_32 says:

    8% return long term average is garbage

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Gloria says:

    I am from Portugal, I want to invest but the only option here is Vanguard Ireland. Paying 41% taxes !! Somebody know what to do to pay less?

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hannah Monroe says:

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  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Justin Arce says:

    In Costa Rica we get up to 7.4% net in banks and cooperatives for 1 year deposits.

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars jakemf1 says:

    Tell this to the pension fund that have to pay out regardless of ups and downs when the down comes there will be a lot of cuts and challenges. This next downturn will be as low as these artificial highs.

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Janay Probst says:

    What about Roth IRA? Isn’t that 7%-10% on average over the long term?

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Amy Buchanan says:

    I don't invest in S&P I prefer to choose my own stocks. There are too many companies in S&P that do not represent my values or the need for preservation of the environment and sustainability. I'd prefer to pick ethical and responsible companies to invest in.

  28. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hola! Timothy Dwight says:

    Hey Graham correct me if i'm wrong, but you're not actually getting a return with equity unless you "separate" the equity from the house and reinvest it in something that gives you a greater % return than what you are paying in % interest on your mortgage, right?

  29. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mike Burns says:

    1. S&P500
    2. Individual Stocks
    3. Real Estate
    4. P2P Loans

  30. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Alec Santana says:

    Awesome video! I found this really helpful!

  31. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars BePositiveDailyy says:

    GRAHAMMMMM PLEASE RESPOND!!!!

    PLEASE MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT VANGUARD NOW OFFERING $0 COMMISSION IN TRADING STOCKS JUST LIKE ROBINHOOD!!!!!!!!!!!! PLS PLS I HAVE A ROTH IRA WITH VANGUARD BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT VANGUARD RECENTLY DOING $0 STOCK TRADES!!!!! PLSSS MAKE A VIDEO. I WOULD LIKE YOUR INPUT!

    – by the way i am smashing the like button every time I post this comment lol 🙂

  32. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Monster Hobbies Online says:

    YES! YES! YES! I put some money in the S&P 500 in July and you are saying that this is the 8%er. So glad I figured this one out 6 months before I saw this video! 😀

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