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What's up Everyone All right? So the topic of this episode is how to cut your losers faster And so we're going to ask the question and try to find the answer to why so many of us, including me from time to time, fall into the habit of holding our losers way too long and making losses much bigger than they need to be. And then the inverse to this question is also, how can we hold our winners longer, right, cut losses short and hold winners longer? That's the ultimate goal, because the fact is trading to a large extent is it's a game of statistics. And so you either have the numbers in your favor or they're against you. So given the fact that we know most traders lose money, most traders must have the odds against them.

And let's jump onto the whiteboard and actually look at these numbers here for a second. So this is, um, just from a statistical analysis standpoint. If your profit and loss ratio is one to one which means your your winners are a hundred, your losers are 100 or whatever it is they're they're equal then you would need to be right 50 of the time in order to be break even. Right now.

Now that makes sense. That makes perfect sense. Now, if your winners are two to one, you actually only need to be right 33 of the time in order to break even. But if your winners are one to two meaning your losses are twice as big, you actually need to be right 66 percent of the time just to break even.

And what I'll tell you is that most beginner traders me included when I got started have negative profit loss ratios. So my average losers were about 20 cents per share and I was calculating it in cents per share rather than dollars. You can calculate it either way, if we actually look at my metrics here just for a second, this is for the last two weeks of trading and my average winners are 761 dollars, while my average losers are 593 dollars. so that's in dollars now.

We can also do a comparison on this data looking at cents per share. So we're going to compare all the winners to all of the losers. All right. So during the same period of time, let's generate the report and what you're going to see is that the average winners are 16 cents per share and the average losers are 15 cents per share.

Now believe it or not, this is actually a really big achievement for me because when I got started, my average winners were only about eight to ten cents a share. They were small. My average losers were 20 cents a share. which meant I fell into this camp right here of having a negative profit to loss ratio.

Which means I needed to be right 66 of the time just to break even. Let's jump back over here and look at my accuracy over the last couple weeks and what you'll see is that my accuracy is literally right on the nose of 66. and yet it's produced 99 000 in profit. And that is because I've gotten so much better at cutting my losses quickly.

This is so important. So how do you cut losses quickly? Well, And and we'll also talk about how to how to hold winners longer because there's sort of two sides to this topic. On the one hand, um, some people would say well, you set a hard stop and if you're setting a hard stop on your trade and you get stopped out, then that's that. There's nothing that really else you can do to cut your losses faster.
But we know number one. Most people don't set hard stops on their trades me included. and the reason that I don't do that is because my trades are very short. My average hold time is only a few minutes long.

I think my average hold time right now is four minutes for winning trades and two minutes for losing trades. But that also means on the two minute side of the losing trades that I am cutting my losers fast. But because the trade is so short, the mechanics, as you probably understand of setting a stop order means that if you have a stop order out, let's say it's minus 10 cents from your entry. You can't press the button to sell half without first cancelling that sell order.

Now that's going to be true with most brokers. Some brokers will actually allow you to do that and it will automatically change the size of your previous order which is awesome, but that's not most brokers, so for most brokers it would cancel it. Would It would reject your second order because it would say no, You're going to cross your position, you already have one sell order out. You're going to go short the stock if you put out too many sell orders, and then you end up with this issue of overselling and putting yourself short the position if they all fire at the same time.

So I don't use live stop orders, but you know what I do is I keep my hand hovering over two buttons. control and Z. All right. So it's the control button control and then the Z button right here.

And so I always have my hand just like this. So um, actually let's see, it's um, yep. so it's like this and like this. That's the way my my hand is when I'm in a trade.

Pinky on control, middle finger on the Z button right, hit the Z and then um, if I have to real quick, move up to press Control Q to cancel an open order, I would press Control Q. So Control Q Control Z. So for me, I have what's called the bailout hotkey ready to go. Now it's very easy to press that button and with the press of that button instantly I'm out of a trade and I'll show you here.

I'll just show you a real example. Well, it'll be a simulated trading example. I'll use the Nasdaq test stock here. So with the Nasdaq test stock right here, I can jump in this.

um, with a thousand shares by pressing shift one. Boom. I'm in a thousand shares. Shift one.

Now I can press Control Z And just like that, I'm out. So by getting into the trade and having my hand over the Control Z button, if the stock starts to squeeze up, I can of course put a profit target, order out with control P. And if it doesn't hit, I can press control Q and I can sell. and then I'm out of the trade flat.
The easiest way to be ruthless about cutting your losses is by making it just a habit that the way your workflow is, you get into a trade you're looking for a certain thing. If you're buying a micro pullback looking for the break through a half dollar or a whole dollar, you're expecting immediate resolution. And if it doesn't resolve, then as soon as you see that hesitation on the tape, the pause. It slows down.

You see that big seller. you just ruthless cut it. You hit the bid, you bail out, you just get out, and maybe you're getting out flat. Maybe you're up two cents, you're down two cents.

But the second, the trade doesn't look good anymore, you just get out because if you wait for the clear sign that it's failing, well by that time, you're going to be read on the position versus wherever it was when you had that first moment of hesitation. So one of the things that I have found is that it's much easier to be ruthless about cutting losses when you trade with smaller share size. When you start trading with bigger size 10 000 shares, 15 20, 000 shares. When you press control Z, you know you're gonna get some slippage.

You know the way market makers will see your order coming to the book and the way they'll pull their bids and you get that that slippage down to the bottom of a candle wick and then it pops right back up. So when you start trading with that type of share size, you can no longer really just hit the bid. You sort of have to scale into a trade and you have to sort of unwind the trade. But with smaller share size starting with a hundred shares going up to a thousand, I have zero issues hitting the bid and getting slippage.

When I'm trading with a thousand shares on ninety percent of the stocks, I trade maybe on something that's priced at like 25 or 30 or more a share where you have 20 30 spreads, you'll get a little slippage, but for the most part on stocks under 10 15 a share I can hit the bid with a thousand shares. no issue. now. 2 000 shares generally the same.

Three thousand, typically the same. you start getting up to five thousand, seven thousand, and ten thousand and up. You can start to run into slippage depending on the liquidity of the stock you're trading. So to condition yourself to be ruthless about cutting losses and to identify the right place to exit, you want to trade with smaller share size because that way you can just follow your gut and you don't get that negative kind of reinforcement from the market of getting stopped out with a bunch of slippage only to watch it rip back up.

You stop out flat or small loss. It's no big deal and then when it sets up again, you can easily get back in. Now you know the whole thing that's interesting here is that a big factor in preventing people from hitting the bid is the way orders are routed and just the knowledge that when I finally bail, I'm gonna get a ton of slippage and that can cause that hesitation to not press the sell button. So one of the reasons that many of us will hold losers too long is because of a fear of loss.
If you get into a trade whether it's a thousand shares or 10 000 or 100 000 and the trade suddenly starts not working and it starts going down, you start feeling this inside, feeling this fear of uh oh, I'm gonna lock up a big loss here on this. This is gonna be a big loser. So it starts going down and you're in the red and now you get in this position of justifying holding it because you're thinking, well, yes, I'm read on it. But the setup is still good.

It could still turn around and so you get into holding and hoping holding and hoping that it's going to turn around. And if it doesn't then you finally sell at this like capitulation point where it's like selling off. it's just everyone's throwing in the towel and oftentimes that's the low and then you get a bounce back up. Maybe it's only a temporary bounce, but you never want to be finally bailing out when you're getting those sell-offs because you're just going to get the worst fill possible.

So one of the things that I'm a big advocate of is being able to recognize that you, that we all have that sort of fear in us. You know? At the very beginning of this episode, I talked about how this is a game in a lot of ways of statistics. And yet most people lose. And it's because most traders fall into this habit of holding winners uh, sorry, holding losers too long and selling winners way too quickly.

They create a negative profit loss ratio for themselves. You know, their average losers? maybe 200 bucks. Their average winners are a hundred. You know it's it's negative profit loss ratio.

Therefore, they would need to be right 66 percent of the time just to break even. And unlike a trader like me who's making 100 grand in two weeks at 66 Success Now obviously. Disclaimer: My results are not typical. That's no guarantee that you're going to find a similar result if you trade with me.

there's no guarantee. so be cautious. But the fact is it the reason that I'm making that money in that same period of time is because I'm at least maintaining a one-to-one ratio. I'm not even up here at two to one.

To get a two to one ratio, you need to have really tight stops and you need to have bigger winners. And you know what usually happens. In order to get two to one, you start sacrificing small base hits for bigger winners that extend your profit ratio side. and the result is your accuracy starts to decline so you kind of have to choose a certain point.

Do I want to be more of a scalp trader where I take really quick entries and exits and therefore I have high accuracy, but slightly lower average winners? Or do I want to be a little bit more of a trader looking for home runs Where I take a trade and I may be up 20 cents or 30 cents a share, but I'm not going to take any off the table. I'm going to sacrifice that small base hit for the bigger move because sometimes that trade is going to end up going back and stopping you out red which brings your accuracy back down right? So at the end of this episode I'll put a link to um, Scalp Trading because I think many of you guys will find that interesting. and um, I'll put a I'll put a link to another episode on holding your winners longer where I sort of talked a little bit in more detail about the winning side of sort of this question. Now one of the next steps that you can do to cut your losers faster and this is this is so important right here.
Um, when I hosted this is a little um uh, messy here because I was drawing on the other side. So these are these are four steps that you can take to try to cut losers faster. Focus on highest quality trades. If you are focusing on the highest quality trades, you're focusing on trading the front side of the move.

When the Macd is pulling away, your moving averages are moving up. the stock is just beginning to open up. You're gonna find that these stocks are much more forgiving. You're gonna find that dips get bought up because the stock is stair stepping up so when it has like a little dip it still goes up.

The problem with trading stocks on the back side of the move is that when their stairs stepping down the pops they don't go up high enough to get you back out with profit and then it dumps down further. So being able to identify and differentiate the front side of the move and the back side of the move is going to be super important. Focus on trading high quality setups on the front side of the move. Number one: Number two: Trade with smaller share size as you're getting more comfortable and as you're trying to condition yourself to hit the bid, bail out and cut losses and be ruthless about it.

Number three: You can try using stop orders if you want to try just having like eight cent stops on small size, you're not going to have much slippage on it. You will have an issue when you trade stocks that have bigger spreads, but it can get you in the habit of just quick stop loss. Quick stop loss and it's no big deal. You can bounce back from small losses.

I also like to use stop at Break. Even so, when I get into a trade and I'm up 5 or 10 cents, I can set my stop at break. even. Now again, I I want to make sure I take some profit, not just hold it, break even and let it come back down, but stop it.

Break even means at that that point I'm risking basically zero or maybe like 10 or 15 with a stop right at my entry. The only risk would be a little bit of slippage. and then number Four start looking at scaling. You can both scale in and scale out of trades.
So a scaling strategy means let's say you're looking at a stock for the break of five dollars. so you get in a thousand. Let's say 500 shares at 4.95 If it immediately rips through 5 and goes to 510, you can add another 500 on the confirmation at 510 with a new target of 525, then up to 550.. if you get that move, your cost basis has gone from 495.

Adding at 510, your cost basis is now like 503 or whatever. 504 right? So you moved your average up, but then you've got a bigger position and you can now start to sell half as it goes higher, adjust stops to break even inversely. If you get in a trade and you buy at 495, it hits 501 and then drops down to 490. You could sell half for a loss and say, you know what? If this was a really good quality trade, it would already be at 510..

So on the one hand, you could just bail on the whole thing. If you still think maybe it has some potential, you could scale out of half for a loss, thereby reducing your risk on the trade because the trade has already proven that. maybe it's not as clean as you thought it was going to be and then if it does go back up to 510 515, you could always add back. I usually whenever I like if I take a trade and I get in at 495 for instance, and it drops to 575..

if I've taken a starter, I can add at 575, look for the pot back up to 585 and then get out flat. So being able to begin a trade with a smaller position gives you the ability to scale in whether it's a little higher or a little lower, and it's a little easier to manage a trade, right? So if I get in something and it immediately drops 50 cents a share, I could just cut the loss on the whole thing. But usually if something drops 50 cents a share, it's gonna bounce back up. So then if I add if I start with half size, I add another half.

Now it only needs to bounce halfway back up for me to get out flat. And that's sort of a risk management technique where I change my focus on the trade. From this being a big winner to just getting out flat. getting out flat.

That means my losses are going to be small. It's a little more advanced to get into that type of scaling where you're averaging into a trade or averaging down on your position. So as a beginner, you're going to want to stick with scaling out of winners and just cutting your loss and hard stop on trades because that way, what you're doing is, you're capping your downside. So if you can start capping your downside at 10 cents.

and of course, my average losses right now are, uh, we had it at about 16 cents. So capping my downside loss right now at you know, a 16 cent stop, wherever that was, that's good. You cap your downside and then on the profit side on your winners, you want to try to scale out so you can hold your winners longer. So if you really enjoyed this episode and this topic really connects with you, it resonates with you.

You understand that this is an area where your trading can stand to really see some improvements. I want you to check out the link that will be in the description. It's to an hour-long trading psychology session where the topic was on cutting losers faster and holding winners longer. And it was led by the head of our trading psychology team.
So it was led by a couple of people who know a lot about psychology and traitor mindset. They know a whole lot more about it than I do, so I hope you'll check out that episode. I think if you're someone out there that is going through the journey, you're hitting these bumps in the road. You may be running into these mental walls where it's holding back your trading.

So if you can break through those mental walls and that that way break through those old habits of holding losers way too long and selling winners way too soon, then that for you could be a pivot. That could be a turning point. So I hope you really focus on this topic. It's a big one for all beginner traders out there, all right.

So there'll be a link right down the description to the comments you can check out. and I'll put a link here for a couple more episodes on Youtube that I think you'll enjoy and I look forward to seeing you right back at it for the next episode, right here?.

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27 thoughts on “How to cut losers faster”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Andy Truong says:

    This is called Greatness. The Master of Day Trade!. I've learned so much from watching his videos. Thanks so much, Ross for your generosity

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Simranjeetsingh Sudan says:

    Which laptop you use for trading?

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars timbawoof1 says:

    Love the background music at the beginning.Who is it?
    It almost sounds like Richard Thompson doing an acoustic intro to 1952 Vincent black lightning.
    Oh. Excellent video 👍
    I could really use a good video on scaling too.
    ✌️☮️

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars slydon75 says:

    Thank you for the lesson!

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars gspears says:

    I averaged down on ROKU in the AH tonite. 😞

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Bruce Willis says:

    If you're new be careful watching this guy or anyone for that matter, only risk like 5$ a day if you can afford to lose it. Simulating trading does not have the same feel as real trading and actually losing real money. Not using a stop loss is like not having your wing man.

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Danay Puebla says:

    Thanks Ross,

    You are the best, ruthlessly cutting the losers and holding on to winners,

    The Holy Grail of Trading,😊

    Thank you again for everything you do!!!

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Quest Marker says:

    Ross can you go over metrics someone should have in the sim and then start when going with live ?

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Haley says:

    Thank you

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Kevin Archer says:

    What happens if you put in for 3000 share but they only have 2000?

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Bradley Rogers says:

    I think I speak for thousands of people when I say this, you don't realize how grateful I am to have someone to learn from for free. The amount of knowledge you provide is insane. I've been trading for exactly a year and although it has been tough, your videos have kept me going. Every trading day is either a win or a learning experience. I would like to express my gratitude and say thank you so much for what you do!

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Vill Ram says:

    Thanks for the videos. Great advice.

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Pablo Pipipopo says:

    Silent Bob? Probably heard that one?

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars name name says:

    what if as soon as u buy, it goes below u

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars PROFESSOR O says:

    Thats Knowxledge!!!!!!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jack Peabody says:

    hey ross its Jack Pea. Just wanted to say i loved this episode and please release the one on holding winners longer!!

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Underdog Factor says:

    Thanks Ross this helps

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Pinto Cardo says:

    He is spitting pure facts. This really hit home 4 me..

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars kekfuszal says:

    The real question is when a trade becomes a loser and at what point do you realize and admit that? Many times by the time I realize it is losing and not just a bit of pulling back it is already late. So how do you know WHEN to pull the trigger?

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Awesome Surfer says:

    Another mistake is when you buy 2000 shares instead of 200 shares, way big loss that happened to me today

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Limited Time says:

    Your videos are always right on time for what I'm dealing with 😄

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars asiachan says:

    Banger.

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ta JStAnn says:

    I need to listen to this over and over AND over, so that if after hearing it another 200 times, maybe just maybe it will manifest from ears to action. Psychologically I know this, but still tend to keep holding and repeating this "bad habit." Thanks Ross–got to be Ruthless cutting losers quickly. Always good content!!

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Sgt Gilbert says:

    Big account challenge over$10

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Trade, Swing, Invest says:

    Long time Warrior Pro member: this video was awesome, your best ever!

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Blink Trading says:

    I've always learned a lot from Ross' videos, BUT, I wish he would say, more often:
    "I made 15¢ on that trade" instead of saying "I made $32,000.00 on that trade".
    This would be so much easier to identify with for the average viewer.

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars rizwan101 says:

    Been trading for almost a year, just keep making this mistake again and again.

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